From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (Emacs bug Tracking System) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3454: marked as done ( when reading the emacs manual sometimes goes to the wrong node) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:45:04 +0000 Message-ID: References: <9fbd0ee10906022240y1175a362wb399675d06ca07ce@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1244043904-924-0" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1244044657 18471 80.91.229.12 (3 Jun 2009 15:57:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:57:37 +0000 (UTC) To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 03 17:57:34 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MBsqL-0004bm-Vq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:57:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55849 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MBsqL-0007M3-G3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:57:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MBsqF-0007L9-IO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:57:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MBsqB-0007Kh-3n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:57:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52980 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MBsqA-0007KY-Vr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:57:23 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:53944) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MBsq8-0000p5-8o; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:57:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n53FvIPT003009; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:57:18 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n53Fj4gq000947; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:45:04 -0700 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: closed 3454 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:28458 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1244043904-924-0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Your message dated Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:39:17 -0400 with message-id and subject line Re: bug#3454: when reading the emacs manual sometime= s goes to the wrong node has caused the Emacs bug report #3454, regarding when reading the emacs manual sometimes goes to the wrong n= ode to be marked as done. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=4.0 tests=MULTALT autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n535edw9012794 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:40:41 -0700 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:37089) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MBjDL-00045q-73 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:40:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MBjDK-00081z-EM for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:40:39 -0400 Received: from mail-gx0-f174.google.com ([209.85.217.174]:48460) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MBjDK-00080H-5s for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:40:38 -0400 Received: by mail-gx0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 22so296192gxk.18 for ; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:40:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=0nvm+aSQYxL5FqPyDzUqaYplI1JzALQnwaipv5jSQxU=; b=Tsnp9hZ//hNAvbZU21LmO3Bkm842hytrE5oYl8nrCL6M3EXeKE3jYLluqSOSSBnxdg cDVT14sjKn3qqzuPnOqbxC+KQWw1ZVAtJj5SAY7k8D2KNiZmbAe/6IC9fUGlYzWPnxCH L/l3wRhPHv6bO/YzyJkebhCqarHlCXVNJzoVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SF3dOxbj6BksVhUvaVc3P1tjYoVCt9jVR3HE9TjdMd2ZUFvladj4T1YwkV0mFcIzgW DeLR8/bT22NuOUANE9J74dfTgleyAs5xxvIbpOqOdSGB5gLkulWIuhLrVsm6tW3Ywxyd ZxPZzEOd0i2U7lwBsmMeEmD11sSdBOO+fst0Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.9.17 with SMTP id m17mr309308ybi.23.1244007637092; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 00:40:37 -0500 Message-ID: <9fbd0ee10906022240y1175a362wb399675d06ca07ce@mail.gmail.com> Subject: when reading the emacs manual sometimes goes to the wrong node From: Shannon Jones To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd47b064e8c13046b6b1972 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) --000e0cd47b064e8c13046b6b1972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit when reading the emacs manual sometimes goes to the wrong node. Emacs version: GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.10.4) of 2009-05-26 (built from pretest source tarball) Running on CentOS 5.3. No options given to configure. Also tested on Windows with same results. How to reproduce: Run emacs -Q C-h r (Reads emacs manual) g Command Index (takes you to the "Command and Function Index" page of the manual) M-> (Go to end of info node) At this point, your cursor should be at the end of the info node that lists all commands and functions. Note that at the top, the next node is listed as "Variable Index". I would expect that pressing would take you to this node. However, if you press it takes you to some other node. It takes me to the middle of the node "49 Two-Column Editing". I believe has a similar problem, but I didn't narrow down a test case. According to the manual for Info, "You can read an entire manual top to bottom by just typing ". So it seemed strange to me that pressing went to some place in the middle of the manual instead of the next node. This problem also existed in emacs 22.3. --000e0cd47b064e8c13046b6b1972 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <SPC> when reading the emacs manual sometimes goes to the wrong node.=

Emacs version: GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version= 2.10.4)
=A0of 2009-05-26 (built from pretest source tarball)

Run= ning on CentOS 5.3.
No options given to configure.
Also tested on Windows with same results.=


How to reproduce:

Run emacs -Q
C-h r (Reads emacs man= ual)
g Command Index (takes you to the "Command and Function Index&= quot; page of the manual)
M-> (Go to end of info node)

At this point, your cursor should be= at the end of the info node that lists all commands and functions.=A0 Note= that at the top, the next node is listed as "Variable Index".=A0= I would expect that pressing <SPC> would take you to this node.=A0 H= owever, if you press <SPC> it takes you to some other node.=A0 It tak= es me to the middle of the node "49 Two-Column Editing".

I believe <DEL> has a similar problem, but I didn't narrow do= wn a test case.

According to the manual for Info, "You can read= an entire manual top to bottom by just typing <SPC>".=A0 So it = seemed strange to me that pressing <SPC> went to some place in the mi= ddle of the manual instead of the next node.

This problem also existed in emacs 22.3.

--000e0cd47b064e8c13046b6b1972-- ------------=_1244043904-924-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 3454-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 3 Jun 2009 15:39:22 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,GMAIL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n53FdIYQ032509 for <3454-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:39:19 -0700 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MBsYf-0002mJ-Tq; Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:39:17 -0400 From: Eli Zaretskii To: Shannon Jones , 3454-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com In-reply-to: <9fbd0ee10906022240y1175a362wb399675d06ca07ce@mail.gmail.com> (message from Shannon Jones on Wed, 3 Jun 2009 00:40:37 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#3454: when reading the emacs manual sometimes goes to the wrong node Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii References: <9fbd0ee10906022240y1175a362wb399675d06ca07ce@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:39:17 -0400 > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 00:40:37 -0500 > From: Shannon Jones > Cc: > Reply-To: Shannon Jones , 3454@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com > > Run emacs -Q > C-h r (Reads emacs manual) > g Command Index (takes you to the "Command and Function Index" page of the > manual) > M-> (Go to end of info node) > > At this point, your cursor should be at the end of the info node that lists > all commands and functions. Note that at the top, the next node is listed > as "Variable Index". I would expect that pressing would take you to > this node. However, if you press it takes you to some other node. It > takes me to the middle of the node "49 Two-Column Editing". This is not a bug: SPC does _not_ necessarily go to the Next node; instead, it traverses the nodes as a tree: if there is a menu in the current node, it takes you to the first menu item of that menu. If you need to go to the Next node, type `n', not SPC. > According to the manual for Info, "You can read an entire manual top to > bottom by just typing ". Right, but by going to the Next node you will not end up reading the whole manual, because Next does not descend to sections, subsections, subsubsections, etc. SPC does, so it does indeed guarantee that you end up reading the whole manual in the logical order: before you move to the next chapter, you read all the sections and subsections of the current chapter. This logic does TRT in nodes that are not indices, because an index is ordered alphabetically, not in any meaningful order as far as the sections are concerned. Morale: do not use SPC at the end of an index, use `n'. I'm closing this report. ------------=_1244043904-924-0--