From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (Emacs bug Tracking System) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2956: marked as done (23.0.92; anything.el causes BSOD on vista64 dual-processor) Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:40:07 +0000 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1239475207-14385-0" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1239475761 24313 80.91.229.12 (11 Apr 2009 18:49:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:49:21 +0000 (UTC) To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 11 20:50:39 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LsiHf-0002wS-O7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 20:50:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60953 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LsiGG-0006aa-CB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:49:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LsiBL-00053B-Ou for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:43:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LsiBH-0004zQ-J2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:43:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47233 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LsiBH-0004zG-Cn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:42842) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LsiBG-00089t-1A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3BIhn2Y015336; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:43:50 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3BIe7HO014461; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:40:07 -0700 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: closed 2956 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,w32 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27097 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1239475207-14385-0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Your message dated Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:31:26 -0400 with message-id and subject line Re: bug#2956: 23.0.92; anything.el causes BSOD on vista64 = dual-processor has caused the Emacs bug report #2956, regarding 23.0.92; anything.el causes BSOD on vista64 dual-processor to be marked as done. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,GMAIL,MULTALT autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3B09MZU004105 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:09:23 -0700 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:33361) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LsQmf-0005Kz-N9 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:09:21 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LsQme-0004PY-JE for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:09:21 -0400 Received: from mail-gx0-f208.google.com ([209.85.217.208]:60324) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LsQme-0004PQ-5x for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:09:20 -0400 Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so3042120gxk.18 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:09:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=4vEeMLZe7qMylg8DknU0smcCDq9O+hyx5nTBD/SZ2wE=; b=ShA+QwSB3jGqv6gzX1EUXZ7c7/QhpcS5sejTqqBamKSR85uXJhcvCPemjTh5Dt7vJr p4FoXzyk4On4enKVCdFBWhISneLfMWM3w5AuKkrq8dva3d6iQnCtkWao0j39N6g7tFGV YrURyF6bPnBiQx9dOnUZyLdGg8M2ElRMWul1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OhBbDPpPlg4Rxoc1wcvYrAqeadwEwU7Gg8NYcWlCxr4f4DMbxb4oLdhOwr0WOJiMgp 5FiYfoKR9fpvUVZIt+X2y6FZ1kGmZxuItCkbvJQiqyzFvxrgAiusqrchSfJjwjRSqjbe +MrepiJecsfz8O4bz/VUibOwCVkZlFbgKdl2g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.44.15 with SMTP id w15mr7649904ybj.155.1239408559214; Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:09:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: 23.0.92; anything.el causes BSOD on vista64 dual-processor From: Erik Charlebois To: "emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750dbe2e74f8804673c4a24 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) --00151750dbe2e74f8804673c4a24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Running "M-x anything" with anything.el, then pressing tab and enter causes Vista 64 to BSOD with a "Second processor failed to respond to clock interrupt in time" error. I am running on a dual quad-core system. I have hit this problem in ERC as well, so I know it is not related entirely to anything.el. It is simply easier to reproduce consistently on anything.el. This problem does not occur with 22.3. (As a software developer myself, I understand how ridiculously esoteric this bug is and that the OS shouldn't panic from a user-land process. I understand if this doesn't get fixed. I thought I'd report it anyway. If I can help provide more information (maybe there is some triage of version 23 features I could do, given the option names), feel free to ask (erikcharlebois@gmail.com).) In GNU Emacs 23.0.92.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6001) of 2009-03-30 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.0.6001 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: yas/minor-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t savehist-mode: t show-paren-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: M-x g C-g M-x e m a c s - r e p o r t - e m Recent messages: Building completion list of all manual topics... Loading c:/Users/Erik Charlebois/.emacs.d/kuler-colors.el (source)...done Loading c:/Users/Erik Charlebois/.emacs.d/cedet-1.0pre6/common/cedet.el (source)... Outdated speedbar 1.0 shadowed to meet minimum version 1.0.2 Setting up CEDET packages... Loading `dframe': old-style backquotes detected! Setting up CEDET packages...done Loading c:/Users/Erik Charlebois/.emacs.d/cedet-1.0pre6/common/cedet.el (source)...done No desktop file. For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Quit -- Erik Charlebois --00151750dbe2e74f8804673c4a24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Running "M-x anything" with = anything.el, then=20 pressing tab and enter
causes Vista 64 to BSOD with a "Second proce= ssor=20 failed to respond to
clock interrupt in time" error. I am running o= n a dual=20 quad-core system.
=A0
I have hit this problem in ERC as well= , so I know=20 it is not related
entirely to anything.el. It is simply easier to reprod= uce=20 consistently
on anything.el. This problem does not occur with=20 22.3.
=A0
(As a software developer myself, I und= erstand how=20 ridiculously esoteric
this bug is and that the OS shouldn't panic fr= om a=20 user-land process. I
understand if this doesn't get fixed. I thought= I'd=20 report it anyway.
If I can help provide more information (maybe there is= some=20 triage of
version 23 features I could do, given the option names), feel = free=20 to
ask (erikcharlebois@gmail= .com).)
=A0

In GNU Emacs 23.0.92.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6001)
=A0of 2009-03-30= on=20 SOFT-MJASON
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version= =20 6.0.6001
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)'
=A0
Important settings:
=A0 value of $LC_ALL: nil
=A0 value of $LC_C= OLLATE:=20 nil
=A0 value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
=A0 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
=A0= value of=20 $LC_MONETARY: nil
=A0 value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
=A0 value of $LC_TIME= :=20 nil
=A0 value of $LANG: ENU
=A0 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
=A0=20 locale-coding-system: cp1252
=A0 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t<= /div>
=A0
Major mode: Lisp Interaction
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Minor modes in effect:
=A0 yas/minor-mode: t
=A0 desktop-save-mo= de:=20 t
=A0 savehist-mode: t
=A0 show-paren-mode: t
=A0 mouse-wheel-mode= : t
=A0=20 file-name-shadow-mode: t
=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t
=A0 font-lock-m= ode:=20 t
=A0 global-auto-composition-mode: t
=A0 auto-composition-mode: t=A0=20 auto-encryption-mode: t
=A0 auto-compression-mode: t
=A0 column-numbe= r-mode:=20 t
=A0 line-number-mode: t
=A0 transient-mark-mode: t
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Recent input:
M-x g C-g M-x e m a c s - <backspace>=20 <backspace> <backspace>
<backspace> <backspace>= =20 <backspace> r e p o r t - e
m <tab> <return>
=A0
Recent messages:
Building co= mpletion list of all manual=20 topics...
Loading c:/Users/Erik Charlebois/.emacs.d/kuler-colors.el=20 (source)...done
Loading c:/Users/Erik=20 Charlebois/.emacs.d/cedet-1.0pre6/common/cedet.el (source)...
Outdated= =20 speedbar 1.0 shadowed to meet minimum version 1.0.2
Setting up CEDET=20 packages...
Loading `dframe': old-style backquotes detected!
Sett= ing up=20 CEDET packages...done
Loading c:/Users/Erik=20 Charlebois/.emacs.d/cedet-1.0pre6/common/cedet.el (source)...done
No des= ktop=20 file.
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h=20 C-a.
Quit

--
Erik Charlebois
--00151750dbe2e74f8804673c4a24-- ------------=_1239475207-14385-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 2956-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Apr 2009 18:31:35 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, XIRONPORT autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3BIVWHF012815 for <2956-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:31:33 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEEAP5+4ElLd+7D/2dsb2JhbACBUcd4g3wGhRY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.40,172,1238990400"; d="scan'208";a="36905783" Received: from 75-119-238-195.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([75.119.238.195]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 11 Apr 2009 14:31:26 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 42F4582F5; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:31:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 2956-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: Re: bug#2956: 23.0.92; anything.el causes BSOD on vista64 dual-processor Message-ID: References: <83fxgfmgry.fsf@gnu.org> <83ab6np4w7.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:31:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83ab6np4w7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:49:12 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > The fact (if it is a fact) that a problem manifests itself only on >> > Vista does not necessarily mean there's no bug in Emacs, especially >> > since the variety of different systems on which Emacs is routinely >> > tested is so small. Some positive evidence is required to deduce that >> > the bug is in the underlying OS. Do you have such an evidence? >> An unprivileged process able to crash the OS is always a bug in the OS. > Please re-read what I wrote: I also said that this doesn't necessarily > mean there's no bug in Emacs. We know for a fact that there are many bugs in Emacs, so there's no risk of me thinking that "there's no bug in Emacs" ;-) > We don't care about Vista bugs here, but I think we do care about Emacs. Indeed. But he described a bug in Vista, which happens to appear to be triggered by something in Emacs. Since we don't know what is that thing in Emacs that triggers the bug, we can't even decide if it's itself a bug or not. We have plenty of real confirmed bugs not to worry about this one until Vista gets fixed. And I already mentioned a good "fix". Stefan ------------=_1239475207-14385-0--