From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (Emacs bug Tracking System) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2398: marked as done (23.0.90; MUSTMATCH read-file-name arg, confirm-nonexistent-file-or-buffer) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:35:03 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87mybii1an.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <012c01c992ee$8ec310b0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1237437303-1208-0" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1237437855 16970 80.91.229.12 (19 Mar 2009 04:44:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:44:15 +0000 (UTC) To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 19 05:45:32 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LkA8E-0006Jx-Jt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 05:45:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56009 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LkA6r-0008DH-TR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:44:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LkA6k-0008Bl-KH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:43:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LkA6e-00087B-7N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:43:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38065 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LkA6e-000878-18 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:43:48 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:40134) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LkA6d-00072F-Ai for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:43:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2J4hhSS003818; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:43:43 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n2J4Z3RO001309; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:35:03 -0700 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: closed 2398 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:26476 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1237437303-1208-0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Your message dated Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:28:32 -0400 with message-id <87mybii1an.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> and subject line Re: 23.0.90; MUSTMATCH read-file-name arg, confirm-nonexis= tent-file-or-buffer has caused the Emacs bug report #2398, regarding 23.0.90; MUSTMATCH read-file-name arg, confirm-nonexistent-file-o= r-buffer to be marked as done. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1K02p44018398 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:02:52 -0800 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:55564 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LaIoj-0005jB-Mt for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:00:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LaIqm-0006pC-A1 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:02:41 -0500 Received: from rcsinet12.oracle.com ([148.87.113.124]:64466 helo=rgminet12.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LaIql-0006ow-Ev for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:02:40 -0500 Received: from acsinet13.oracle.com (acsinet13.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by rgminet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n1K02X0a012736 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:02:35 GMT Received: from acsmt703.oracle.com (acsmt703.oracle.com [141.146.40.81]) by acsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n1K02djF003365 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:02:40 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:02:31 +0000 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 23.0.90; MUSTMATCH read-file-name arg, confirm-nonexistent-file-or-buffer Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:02:44 -0800 Message-ID: <012c01c992ee$8ec310b0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmS7o5OKo5uNZ2mQaO5Ds33anjlMQ== X-Source-IP: acsmt703.oracle.com [141.146.40.81] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.499DF318.0321:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) 1. Doc string of `read-file-name' says: "Fourth arg MUSTMATCH non-nil means require existing file's name. Non-nil and non-t means also require confirmation after completion." A value such as `confirm-after-completion' does NOT mean that an existing file name is required, AFAICT, so the first sentence is false. Passing a value such as `confirm-after-completion' is no guarantee that the string returned by `read-file-name' names an existing file. 2. Similarly, the Elisp manual seems incorrect. You are not REQUIRED to enter the name of an existing file, if MUSTMATCH is, say, `confirm-after-completion'. Completion is still lax in this case; it's just that you must confirm that you want a non-existing file name. 3. Beyond the fact that the doc is inaccurate (and confusing) on this matter, the new behavior also breaks existing code. Any code that passed a non-nil non-t value in order to guarantee that the value returned by the function names an existing file is now broken. 4. The user option `confirm-nonexistent-file-or-buffer' is not even documented in this regard in the Elisp manual. 5. The default value of `confirm-nonexistent-file-or-buffer' is `after-completion', but if you do M-x customize-option confirm-nonexistent-file-or-buffer you see "Always", not "After completion", as the current value, and State says STANDARD. Something is amiss here. Further, you can change the value, using the Value Menu, to "Always" or to "After completion", but the actual value remains the same: `after-completion'. This is a mess (bugged), and quite confusing. And the available values don't seem to correspond to either the documented completion behavior (see above) or the actual completion behavior. In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-02-01 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' ------------=_1237437303-1208-0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 2398-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 19 Mar 2009 04:27:13 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2J4RAno032229 for <2398-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:27:11 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C79D757E245; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:28:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: 2398-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: Re: 23.0.90; MUSTMATCH read-file-name arg, confirm-nonexistent-file-or-buffer Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:28:32 -0400 Message-ID: <87mybii1an.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The minibuffer changes have now been documented. ------------=_1237437303-1208-0--