From: Richard Riley <rileyrgdev@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Moving from Thunderbird to Emacs for mail and calendar
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:35:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <h88eeo$il2$1@news.eternal-september.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.6308.1252506039.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Jeff Clough <jeff@chaosphere.com> writes:
> Okay, I've looked at Gnus, as well as VM and have some questions. I'm
> also having a weird problem in trying just to send mail from Emacs. See
> below if you'd like to know more and think you can help out. I'm still
> looking for any other packages people actually use for email in emacs
> under windows so don't be shy! On the calendar front, I'll be giving
> org-mode the once over later today.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeff
>
> P.S.
>
> Gnus
>
> I've looked at Gnus. It uses the "paradigm" of newsgroups for
> everything. I'd rather not have to retrain my brain for something as
> trivial as reading email, but let's just say I'm willing. Is there a
Theres nothing to retrain. You see a "group" and your email is in
there. No paradigm shift at all.
> way to see "I do not have an NNTP server, so please don't bother me
> about it anymore"? It looks like I can set a variable so that gnus will
> ignore the email side of things, but I can't find something similar for
> news.
Just dont subscribe to any news groups.
>
> VM
>
> I've also taken a glance at VM and would like to go further, but I see
> no direct evidence that it works with Emacs 22.x. Is anyone using VM
> with a recent Emacs on Windows XP?
>
> Sending Mail
>
> In the process of all this looking, I decided to try to get *sending*
> mail to work. I hear tell from this faq
> (http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/Network-access.html) that
> emacs can "talk directly to SMTP mail servers" via smtpmail.el. I
> stuffed the following in my .emacs:
>
> (setq user-full-name "Your full name")
> (setq user-mail-address "Your@email.address")
> (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "domain.name.of.your.smtp.server")
>
> (setq send-mail-command 'smtpmail-send-it) ; For mail-mode (Rmail)
>
>
> Did C-x m, wrote stuff, did C-c C-c and promptly got a Thunderbird
> window popping up the message (well, actually it told me to paste the
> message in because the text had been conveniently dropped on my
> clipboard, thankfully obliterating what was there before). Is there a
> way to stop this from happening and for Emacs to just send it itself?
> "Talk directly to SMTP mail servers" doesn't mean "Fire up another
> application" in my opinion.
Never heard of anything like that before. Emacs doesn't launch
thunderbird.
>
> Still looking for suggestions/experiences with other mail packages, and
> am planning to give org-mode the once over later today. Thanks for
> getting me pointed in the right direction!
>
> P.P.S.
>
> Before anyone seriously suggests moving to linux as a solution to my
> problem (which seems dangerously near), let me just clarify something.
> I'm well aware of my options in that regard and am very familiar with
> all things *nixen. Switching from Windows XP to *nix for email is not
> going to happen. Not at all. And I'm not interested in explaining why
> I won't or listening to why I should.
>
> Installing, configuring and maintaining an IMAP server in order to read
> and search my mail is also not going to happen. An ancient version of
> Eudora on my dad's old Mac LC could let me read my mail, *and* find my
> messages, without having to run such a thing. And it did it for
> thousands of messages without flinching. If a piece of software here in
> the modern world can't handle it, the answer is to not use that
> software.
Gnus is possibly the most powerful email/usenet client out there. And
quite why you seem to think people would suggest you move to Linux for
your email client is rather baffling.
>
> I prefer my mail to always be in bsd mbox files because that's still
> what 90% of the world expects your mail to be in, can be manipulated by
> any code that operates on text files and doesn't break when I move from
> OS to OS. And speed shouldn't be a factor when your mua does proper
> indexing.
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-08 23:33 Moving from Thunderbird to Emacs for mail and calendar Jeff Clough
2009-09-09 2:55 ` Bastien
2009-09-09 9:45 ` Tassilo Horn
[not found] ` <mailman.6296.1252489560.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-09 10:08 ` Torsten Mueller
2009-09-09 12:00 ` Andreas Politz
[not found] ` <mailman.6303.1252497724.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-09 12:40 ` Torsten Mueller
2009-09-09 15:39 ` Andreas Politz
[not found] ` <mailman.6308.1252506039.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-09 14:35 ` Richard Riley [this message]
2009-09-09 15:48 ` Jeff Clough
[not found] ` <mailman.6321.1252511354.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-10 5:17 ` Jason Rumney
2009-09-10 5:12 ` Jason Rumney
[not found] ` <4AA7B21C.4000008@chaosphere.com>
2009-09-09 14:35 ` Bastien
2009-09-09 15:28 ` Jeff Clough
2009-09-09 22:25 ` Bastien
2009-09-09 17:55 ` Jeff Clough
[not found] ` <mailman.6268.1252464957.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-09 3:12 ` notbob
2009-09-09 7:18 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-09-09 8:27 ` ken
2009-09-09 10:06 ` Andreas Politz
[not found] ` <mailman.6288.1252484861.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-09 9:59 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-09-09 23:31 ` ken
[not found] ` <mailman.6339.1252539077.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-09 23:59 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-12 12:06 ` Francis Moreau
2009-10-12 12:47 ` Jeff Clough
[not found] ` <mailman.8593.1255351673.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-10-12 12:56 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-12 13:40 ` Francis Moreau
2009-10-12 16:51 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-12 17:12 ` Andreas Politz
2009-10-13 13:29 ` Jeff Clough
[not found] ` <mailman.8683.1255440588.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-10-13 13:58 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 15:33 ` Jeff Clough
[not found] ` <mailman.8686.1255448028.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-10-13 16:20 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 17:13 ` Jeff Clough
2009-10-13 17:51 ` Memnon Anon
2009-10-13 18:17 ` Matt Lundin
[not found] ` <mailman.8690.1255454017.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-10-13 17:32 ` rustom
2009-10-13 17:40 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 17:35 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-13 19:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-10-15 19:59 ` Francis Moreau
2009-10-16 14:26 ` Richard Riley
2009-10-16 19:23 ` Francis Moreau
[not found] <mailman.6252.1252454441.2239.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-09-13 1:06 ` Dave Täht
2009-10-12 2:11 ` Anyone gone from mutt to Emacs? was: " David Combs
2009-10-25 13:12 ` Dave Täht
2009-10-27 12:03 ` Francis Moreau
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