From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bugs against emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:53:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20081212232551.GJ24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20081212235751.GK24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20081213094259.GM24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20081213231403.GR24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20081214002310.GT24493@volo.donarmstrong.com> <20081214101335.GC7530@volo.donarmstrong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229288066 8648 80.91.229.12 (14 Dec 2008 20:54:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:54:26 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 14 21:55:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LBxzu-0006cs-6y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:55:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60201 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LBxyi-0000Yy-D2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:54:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LBxyc-0000Yg-NB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:54:10 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LBxya-0000YL-6m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:54:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56433 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LBxya-0000YH-0h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:54:08 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:38457) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LBxyZ-00039B-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:54:07 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LBxxs-0003a3-Ux; Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:53:24 -0500 X-Spook: covert video Abbas RSA Capricorn BLU-114/B Kosovo X-Ran: &rFmj2}bTn3jdF?fV5r']mULF05A5ndx181`WK"73!BC*,f*2z`3,FUT&1v~dm/D9cz3T4 X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <20081214101335.GC7530@volo.donarmstrong.com> (Don Armstrong's message of "Sun, 14 Dec 2008 02:13:35 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:106913 Archived-At: Don Armstrong wrote: > No, the error is in the use of reply-to-all which include To: in > addition to addresses listed in Reply-To:. The only way to work around > these sorts of idiocies is to totally strip the To: header entirely, > which is fundamentally broken. It's not fair to call people idiotic for following what is the correct behaviour on all other Emacs lists, and what used to be the correct behaviour on the bug list too. There is no doubt in my mind that the system needs to be changed to adapt to the way people work, not vice versa. But this has all been said before, so it seems unproductive to keep restating the same positions. BTW, since the tracker was upgraded yesterday, it seems to have fallen silent (I have had no response to commands issued yesterday).