From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Spammers are now closing bugs Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:16:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ab6cphof.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> <49EBB69F.4050704@gnu.org> <20090421072756.GB1082@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1240334197 13366 80.91.229.12 (21 Apr 2009 17:16:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 17:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , Don Armstrong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 21 19:17:56 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LwJbU-0001aY-18 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:17:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53969 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LwJa4-0002f3-LD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:16:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LwJZz-0002eQ-9j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:16:19 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LwJZu-0002du-Qe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:16:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57616 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LwJZu-0002dq-NO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:16:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:46625) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LwJZu-0005dn-D6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:16:14 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LwJZt-0005AM-PF; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:16:13 -0400 X-Spook: anarchy JSOFC3IP Medco Rand Corporation AFSPC Firefly X-Ran: FgyxE@$Q"+8AznT0]2\,VC@q`GxgEAHtH]3(5E?v4w'#9FsfDB.Atv|4,>l_dfBuq=bBDk X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <20090421072756.GB1082@muc.de> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:27:56 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:110394 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I missed that thread last August. The argument (from Eli) was that > having the bug-gnu-emacs moderators also moderate the bug tracker email > would be too much of a burden for them. As one of the bug-gnu-emacs > moderators, I don't believe this would be the case. To me, it is > scarcely more effort to moderate 10 messages than 1; indeed, finding only > 1 message is an anti-climax, and finding none at all is a major let down. Thanks for being a moderator. My point is, that unless I misunderstand how things work, the total number of messages to be moderated would not change. All mail for bug-gnu-emacs goes through emacsbugs first, which does some stuff, then sends it all on to bug-gnu-emacs. So, you're already seeing all the spam, just too late to stop it getting into emacsbugs. In other words, I think the current setup is: ham+spam ham+spam ham -------> emacsbugs -------> moderators ---> bug-gnu-emacs I'm suggesting moving the moderation step: ham+spam ham -------> moderators ---> emacsbugs ---> bug-gnu-emacs I have no idea if it is possible, or who could set it up.