Please don't cross-post bug reports to emacs-devel

Please don't cross-post bug reports to emacs-devel

[Glenn Morris]

Please don't cross-post bug reports to emacs-devel.

I would argue that it has never made sense to send things to two
lists, but nowadays it is an active annoyance, because when people
reply to both lists via emacs-devel, it ends up creating multiple bug
reports.

(I'm looking at you, "In CVS Emacs, calc-eval gives multiplication
higher precidence than division", which has given us bug 914, 915,
918, 920, 921, 923 and 924. So far.)

If you really want to do this, the way to do it is to send mail to the
bug list _only_, with an "X-Debbugs-CC" header that points to
emacs-devel. Then emacs-devel will get a copy with the bug report
_number_ in.

This is all explained in admin/notes/bugtracker and at
http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/Reporting.

Thanks.

Re: Please don't cross-post bug reports to emacs-devel

[Francis Litterio]

Glenn Morris wrote:

> Please don't cross-post bug reports to emacs-devel.

> (I'm looking at you, "In CVS Emacs, calc-eval gives multiplication
> higher precidence than division", which has given us bug 914, 915,
> 918, 920, 921, 923 and 924. So far.)

Glenn,

That would be me.  I apologize for causing this trouble, and will follow
the below advice in the future.

> If you really want to do this, the way to do it is to send mail to the
> bug list _only_, with an "X-Debbugs-CC" header that points to
> emacs-devel. Then emacs-devel will get a copy with the bug report
> _number_ in.

--
Fran

Re: Please don't cross-post bug reports to emacs-devel

[Glenn Morris]

I see you figured out X-Debbugs-CC; but why are your issues all so
important that they should be discussed on two mailing lists?

Re: Please don't cross-post bug reports to emacs-devel

[Francis Litterio]

Glenn Morris wrote:

> I see you figured out X-Debbugs-CC; but why are your issues all so
> important that they should be discussed on two mailing lists?

If there are two mailing lists, and they have identical subscriber
lists, then there is no sense in posting to both lists.  Of course, if
the subscriber lists are identical, then why have two lists in the first
place?

You see where I'm going with this?
--
Fran

RE: Please don't cross-post bug reports to emacs-devel

[Drew Adams]

> > I see you figured out X-Debbugs-CC; but why are your issues all so
> > important that they should be discussed on two mailing lists?
> 
> If there are two mailing lists, and they have identical subscriber
> lists, then there is no sense in posting to both lists.  Of course, if
> the subscriber lists are identical, then why have two lists 
> in the first place?
> 
> You see where I'm going with this?

IMO, whether the subscriber lists are identical or not is irrelevant. I am
subscribed to both but want separate lists. Separate lists help a subscriber
more easily do different things with messages received from the different lists.
Lists should be defined based on their intended content.

However, I agree that there is little sense in ever posting (or replying) to
both emacs-devel and the Emacs bug list(s). (Regardless of whether their
subscribers are the same.) Pick the most appropriate list and post to that one.
Occasionally, a thread might be moved from one list to another, but there is
rarely a good reason to cross-post.

Count me out of any possible followups to this, BTW - it's fine with me if
others don't agree.

Re: Please don't cross-post bug reports to emacs-devel

[Glenn Morris]

Francis Litterio wrote:

> Of course, if the subscriber lists are identical, then why have two
> lists in the first place?

Because lists may be distinguished by things other than their membership.
They have different purposes.