From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: bug mail-news gateway [was Re: New bug tracker server] Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:13:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ljifrx8s.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259172916 25852 80.91.229.12 (25 Nov 2009 18:15:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 25 19:15:08 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NDMON-0007UU-KU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:15:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58394 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDMON-00016Z-2Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:15:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDMNP-0008UR-Dj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:14:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDMNK-0008O8-Bh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:14:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54719 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDMNK-0008Nr-5P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:13:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:55030) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDMNJ-0004iE-Q7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:13:57 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NDMNJ-0000pq-Dm; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:13:57 -0500 X-Spook: argus Ermes KGB enforcers Guantanamo InfoSec Dick Cheney X-Ran: L^MQYHYu50n7G1~P8qr?CG[m,D{K#`YMAVb`\$F*nL)0T-"}xVJb@@W7v2[+2>qUpHDBpI X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117752 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I think there is a problem with the mail-news gateway that needs >> addressing somehow (bug#936). > > Unrelated rant: I've been a fervent usenet user for many years, but > I must say I find it more and more difficut to access usenet: even my > university's CS department (i.e. where I work) doesn't provide usenet > access any more. I think usenet is sadly dying, replaced by > mailing-lists and crappy web-forums. Amen. If no-one can come up with a fix for #936, however, I think it would be acceptable to make the gateway one-way, mail->news only. I don't think people need to be able to report bugs via usenet. For those who want to do so, gmane exists. This problem continues to happen, resulting in information loss. For example today: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2009-11/msg00578.html was sent via the bug newsgroup. It appeared on the bug mailing list, but not in the tracker: http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=4883 It seems worth thinking about this while the issue of how to get mail into the tracker is on the table.