From: Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Documentation of transient-mark-mode is sloppy, wrong, and confused.
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:30:52 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <gvnodp$2r3$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvvdnkn0mg.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> Hmmm. No you haven't. You have noted one of the circumstances in which
>> a mark becomes active, yet haven't said what it is for a mark to BE
>> active. It is as though a young child has asked you what "pregnant"
>> means, and the entire gist of your answer is "a woman becomes pregnant
>> after a kissing and cuddling session". Unless you mention the growing
>> foetus, your answer is evasive and unhelpful, in fact not really an
>> answer at all. What, exactly, is the essence of "active"ness, in the
>> same way that the foetus is the essence of pregnancy?
>
> The problkem is that the activeness of the mark doesn't describe some
> property of some other state. It's a state itself. In your analogy,
> there's no foetus that would allow us to determine whether the mark
> is active. All we have is the `mark-active' variable, so in the end all
> we can say is "the mark is active if the mark is active".
Can't we say that "the mark is active if `mark-active' is non-nil"?
Note that mark-active is not mentioned in the Emacs manual, only in the
Emacs Lisp manual.
--
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-29 4:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-28 12:29 Documentation of transient-mark-mode is sloppy, wrong, and confused Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-28 16:54 ` Chong Yidong
2009-05-28 20:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-28 20:48 ` Chong Yidong
2009-05-28 23:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-28 23:53 ` Davis Herring
2009-05-29 11:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-29 0:21 ` Chong Yidong
2009-05-29 1:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-29 4:30 ` Kevin Rodgers [this message]
2009-05-29 5:47 ` Andreas Roehler
2009-05-29 8:25 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-29 8:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-06-01 2:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-06-01 9:40 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-06-02 6:23 ` Andreas Roehler
2009-06-02 11:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-29 8:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-29 9:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-29 10:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-29 13:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-29 14:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-29 16:40 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-29 22:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-30 0:11 ` Drew Adams
2009-05-29 9:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-29 10:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-06-01 2:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-05-29 10:45 ` Andreas Roehler
2009-05-29 8:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-29 9:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-05-29 9:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-05-29 13:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
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