From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Trunk r117046 fails on systems with older automake Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 19:01:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <868uqh4ust.fsf@gmail.com> <83tx95zffo.fsf@gnu.org> <3elhuhqv6k.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83lhuhz9zr.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1399414050 31941 80.91.229.3 (6 May 2014 22:07:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 22:07:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 07 00:07:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WhnT2-0004TT-GX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 May 2014 00:04:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54872 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wh5Ps-0002sn-Hs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 May 2014 19:01:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59341) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wh5Pp-0002sh-J9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2014 19:01:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wh5Po-00010T-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2014 19:01:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38463) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wh5Po-00010P-KU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 May 2014 19:01:48 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Wh5Pn-000422-UF; Sun, 04 May 2014 19:01:47 -0400 X-Spook: number key Compsec monarchist NWO data haven clandestine X-Ran: G0g_:>d:}[~aR7eCmQh[EU@4AH;W04g"*-ctb4;B8}s@Dw+aM'W;H?v@JasBVE5uusyi_& X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM In-Reply-To: <83lhuhz9zr.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 04 May 2014 21:15:04 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171720 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > At some point, 1.11 was the requirement, and newer versions would > fail. I don't remember that ever happening. It would be an unusual state of affairs. > If you can promise prominent failures, that's okay, too. I can promise that. autogen.sh will just say "your XX is too old". > (Evidently, at least in this case, it was not so clear-cut, for > reasons we still don't understand.) Because we did not get a proper bug report. (Juanma's mail refers to a different issue/revision than Andy's "it doesn't work" email.) > I'm afraid of subtle failures which can go unnoticed for a long time. I don't think you need to be afraid of that. > I don't have a luxury of doing jobs that are not strictly necessary, > and don't recommend that others use versions I don't use myself, or > upgrade when there's no real need. Besides, which version to upgrade > to? it's not like you can promise to which version we will switch > next, can you? If I were you, I would have built "most recent stable version" at the time you built autotools, not "bare minimum that Emacs requires, even if it's several years old". So just hop in your time machine and go back and build a different version to start with... ;)