From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: usability problem of emacs describe-mode Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Organization: muc.de e.V. Message-ID: References: <76fcf833-ad89-44f2-b227-e18295317ca2@p13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235752856 23792 80.91.229.12 (27 Feb 2009 16:40:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:40:56 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 27 17:42:12 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ld5mn-0004RT-7C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:42:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52179 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ld5lS-0007gb-6X for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:40:42 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news2.glorb.com!feeder.ecngs.de!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.tu-darmstadt.de!news.muc.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs Original-Lines: 56 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin.muc.de Original-X-Trace: colin2.muc.de 1235750194 87684 2001:608:1000::2 (27 Feb 2009 15:56:34 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news-admin@muc.de Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:56:34 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: tin/1.6.2-20030910 ("Pabbay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.11-RELEASE (i386)) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:167137 comp.emacs:97875 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:62439 Archived-At: [ Newsgroups: trimmed ] Hi, Xah! In comp.emacs Xah Lee wrote: > Richard Stallman, from my interaction with him in the past 2 years, > and some reading of his post in emacs dev, i'm starting to find him > very annoying. Don't worry about it. People have been finding RMS very annoying for several decades. ;-) > It appears to me, he's been sitting on his fat ass, completely out of > touch as a coder for at least 10 years, have basically no knowledge of > modern languages and technologies, but pushes and dictates his > politics. Well, he has this habit of being right about things, sometimes years before most people are even aware of them. > The FSF's insistence of signing of legal paper to accept code > contribution is one huge obstacle too, for whatever good or bad reasons > they need to do it. It's irritating, yes, but hardly a huge obstacle. It's necessary because, under USA law (so I'm told), a copyright lawsuit can only proceed with the active involvement of all copyright holders. The advantage, from your point of view, is that anytime anybody violates the copyright of your code, you've got the legal resources of the FSF to back you up. > The guy who wrote aquaemacs emacs, from the few exchange ..... > i don't find him much of a respectable person. [ .... ] > (it goddamn pains me that each time i need to mention his [somebody > else's] name and find the correct spelling, i have to go to my own > emacs page because he almost ****ing make it a point not to stick out > his name as authorship where he SHOULD, as a matter of publishing > ethic. (he probably think it is a modesty. LOL my ****ing ass.)) [ .... ] > frequently, whenever i use some open source software, often am amazed > at what kind absolute idiot created the user interface. Looks like you're having a bad day. Cheer up, and think of that tiny minority of free software hackers who actually do a passable job. ;-) > Xah -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).