From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2235: 22.2.1 emacs -Q should not turn on font-lock Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:16:52 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87hc35ci7s.fsf@jondo.cante.net> <87bptdxddg.fsf@jondo.cante.net> <87zlgxvxy6.fsf@jondo.cante.net> Reply-To: Kevin Rodgers , 2235@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1234111524 18509 80.91.229.12 (8 Feb 2009 16:45:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:45:24 +0000 (UTC) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 08 17:46:39 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LWCnd-00018V-V1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:46:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60891 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LWCmK-0004Li-Hu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:45:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LWCks-0003iK-7a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:43:38 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LWCkq-0003h8-JI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:43:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48939 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LWCkp-0003gu-Q6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:43:36 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:52592) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LWCkp-0001p0-4t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:43:35 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n18GhWvi027125; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:43:33 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n18GP4ZY022549; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:25:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Kevin Rodgers Original-Sender: news Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:25:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2235 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123410983321180 (code B ref -1); Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:25:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 8 Feb 2009 16:17:13 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n18GH8QH021172 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2009 08:17:10 -0800 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LWCLD-0002a0-Gx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:17:07 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LWCLB-0002WR-K2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:17:06 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46312 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LWCLB-0002W9-Fy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:17:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:60085) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LWCLA-00087F-Sr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:17:05 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LWCL9-0002vQ-Ef for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:17:03 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LWCL5-0002CT-Ny for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:16:59 +0000 Original-Received: from c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.161.145.183]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:16:59 +0000 Original-Received: from kevin.d.rodgers by c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:16:59 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) In-Reply-To: <87zlgxvxy6.fsf@jondo.cante.net> X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 11:43:37 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:25050 Archived-At: Jari Aalto wrote: > Lennart Borgman writes: > >> On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Jari Aalto wrote: >>>>> emacs -Q README >>>>> >>>>> On a white terminal[1], the results are unreadable. Please deactivate >>>>> font-lock when --no-site-file (as in -Q) option is specified. >>>> Seems to me like it is better to fix the colors used. >>> That's good, but is only secondary problem. >>> >>> Please refrain from turning on additional features when "bare bones" >>> (-Q) program behavior is asked. >> Font lock mode is on by default since Emacs 22. > > "By default" I read it "as programs sarts without any other options". Think of it as "without any customizations". > I think it is reasonable to expect that features are reduced, like > font-lock, with option "-Q" to give "bare bones" program start. -- Kevin Rodgers Denver, Colorado, USA