From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Tracing what is loading Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:56:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <877i69c12p.fsf@newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1228877859 26613 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2008 02:57:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:57:39 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 10 03:58:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LAFHd-00054z-Qy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:58:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58068 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LAFGS-00049c-GC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:57:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LAFG5-00046T-PS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:57:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LAFG2-00041G-0u for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:57:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53848 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LAFG1-00041B-OR for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:59150 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LAFG1-00015z-7i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LAFFs-0002FO-PM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:56:53 +0000 Original-Received: from c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.161.145.183]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:56:52 +0000 Original-Received: from kevin.d.rodgers by c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:56:52 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 51 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-161-145-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Macintosh/20081105) In-Reply-To: <877i69c12p.fsf@newsguy.com> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:60520 Archived-At: Harry Putnam wrote: > Michael Heerdegen writes: > >> Please note that there already _is_ a message for every file loaded. But >> because the *Messages* buffer only shows the last 50 (or so) messages, >> you can't see them because starting up causes quite more messages. > > Sorry to be back bugging you again but maybe you can add a little more > here. > > Looking at that list, I see some anomalies. > > The first 105 lines are of this form: > /usr/share/emacs/22.3/lisp/term/x-win.elc > > All are in /usr/share/emacs/22.3* I think those were dumped into the emacs executable. > Then comes a line (106): > > /usr/local/GNUS/lisp/gnus-load.el > > An address that is not a normal path to be searched. > How did emacs know to look there? > > That is the address to gnus but not the one in the emacs > distribution. This is the cvs version. Hmmm, perhaps that directory was in load-path at some point, or the file was loaded using its absolute file name. > The information that tells emacs where to look for that lisp directory > resides in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.el > > Which according to the list has not yet been loaded. > > That doesn't show up until line 118 > /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.el > > So is this listing just not accurate to that degree or is something else > going on? I ask because I'm trying to discover when certain init > files are loaded. Does /usr/local/GNUS/lisp/gnus-load.el show up in the list when you start emacs with -Q? What about the other files between it and /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.el? -- Kevin Rodgers Denver, Colorado, USA