From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: have installed cygwin, & "its" emacs. dired shows only subtree, no "up" Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:45:49 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Public Access Networks Corp. Message-ID: References: <9c7ab644-18fe-478f-9516-6b8f051aee7a@p31g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <4923507d-f4b7-493c-81f3-9f3977c80cbd@c22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222116071 11409 80.91.229.12 (22 Sep 2008 20:41:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:41:11 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 22 22:42:08 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KhsE4-0000Pj-TM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:41:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39972 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KhsCz-0005AV-81 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:40:37 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!panix!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 97 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Original-X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1222112749 10912 166.84.1.3 (22 Sep 2008 19:45:49 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:45:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:162574 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57916 Archived-At: In article <4923507d-f4b7-493c-81f3-9f3977c80cbd@c22g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, rustom wrote: > >Yeah well then I take it back :-) > >I myself have used unices for some 25 years and of late have been >suffering the windows world. >No not getting into OS-politics --just that I find I dont know how to >use windows in a reasonable way and the common claim that cygwin makes >windows into unix is far from true (for me). Yeah -- haven't seen how to get a dtterm-like or xterm-like or even vt100-like window that's FULL SCREEN SIZED! (Do you, or anyone, knowhow to do that?) > >So even though emacs on windows is not quite as native on windows as Am confused: are you comparing "emacs" (ANY emacs) running on windows compared to emacs on unix/linux? Or are you comparing NTemacs (on windows, of course) with the emacs that cygwin "setup" lists as something to include as a tool available under CYGWIN? >on a unix (egs slash vs backslash, cannot read lnk files etc etc), it >at least understands it without the poor intermediation of cygwin. > >So all you want to do is transfer firefox files to external hardware >going the way of cygwin-mount.el and all such arcana (which Ive never ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ thanks for informing me of this! >got to work) is a sledgehammer for a nut. >Native emacs was my suggestion assuming that you had other (more emacs- >y) uses for emacs >But the most natural and simple way for moving files around on windows >is windows-explorer not dired! Well, I've done it via window's (well, xp's) "my computer" facility. Works ok, not bad. QUESTION: using "my computer", I look at the sansa-clip's internal directory, or what seems to be it. Under "internalmemory", there's "music", this, that, and the other, PLUS something I called "WBAI". (these "dirs" are all at the same level, seemingly direct-children of "internalmemory". When I copy files (downloaded into "downloads" on my wife's pc) from there, for the "where to" I click on "WBAI". And I can watch them going there. OK, nice -- nice to be able to have the dir-tree of the mp3 device mirrored right there onto the pc! EXCEPT -- when I turn on the mp3-device itself, there's no "WBAI" dir anywhere to be seen! I must go to MUSIC and under that to SONGS -- and it's THERE that all the files ended up at. So I'm not so clear on just what I'm seeing in EITHER place -- "my computer's" "mirror" or the device itself. Any ideas? ALSO -- I first saw the sansa-CLIP (4gb) at Costco, at a discount, so I (spendthrift!) bought TWO of them. So, I hook both of them, simultaneously, to the computer. And (if they're plugged in BEFORE I bring-up the pc) they're both recognized, both icons show up in "my computer". QUESTION: no label identifyhing them, ie no seeming way to refer to one vs the other OTHER THAN by POINTING AT IT ("UG -- ME SEE TWO MP3 DEVICES! ME WANT TO LOOK AT *THAT* ONE. UGG! SEE -- THAT ONE THERE! UG!"). Suggestions as to any NAME for them? THANKS! David