From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christian Herenz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:06:55 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222000847 22910 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2008 12:40:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:40:47 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 21 14:41:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KhOFz-0007Xv-WA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:41:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49829 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KhOEy-0005qK-Ad for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 08:40:40 -0400 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Trace: feeder.motzarella.org U2FsdGVkX18oum6J3JXTjo7VapiEFmNS4sa2OR86Y1ZKOGRGeWJ2ly/yM8PDrwm3RhxNvVlPdfapef4k1BCb7hF7BTG+Zq8b3R0Xzb7BJ1gZ/PprVe5fczde9YugtDMktyYI51DQyPM= Original-X-Complaints-To: Please send complaints to abuse@motzarella.org with full headers Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:05:16 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX19o5h8Li5x0+LIeyZ/SIIvX5HIWTLsmen8= Cancel-Lock: sha1:0QDyFa6nBWjZTeGq+MZJElGtWNE= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; de-AT; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080702 Iceape/1.1.11 (Debian-1.1.11-1) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:162531 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57874 Archived-At: Xah schrieb: > I think the existance of the lisp scratch buffer is one of the major > usability problem of emacs that prevents emacs from being widely > adopted by most text editing audience. Hah... Having not read the whole conversation of this topic, I want to add an experience I made last week. I was in the lab, and saw that a guy on the other site worked inside an xemacs session. I asked him, why he puts everything in the *scratch* buffer - and he looked at me and asked "buffer - scratch - sure you are allright". I think that lots of emacs users today just use emacs as it where notepad.exe or something like that, especially in scientifc environments some people could boost their productivity, if they would at least know some of the basics of the editor in the beginning of their career. When I told the guy: "Do you know, that you can open more than one file at a time in emacs?" He asked me: "Why the hell should I want to do that - I just open another emacs...". Just a little story... Greets, Christian