From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Heime Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Setting value 1 when matching two strings Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 02:17:03 +0000 Message-ID: References: <25420.12274.577322.322044@tux.local> <87v8oje4v6.fsf@web.de> <8SgIL096UJ9Ve5a-wBAWJ0RVszIuVXsf4dUM6tqx3GgCSxFZSJhLC85xIpkh85fH_saOU7UI1gHGwuB52OfP1a3TJgZnbu0gqdeOIOszl5g=@protonmail.com> <87czare3t5.fsf@web.de> <87sfjncmbn.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24072"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 04:18:46 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1okFiI-000600-A0 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 04:18:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39314 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okFiG-0001QQ-Un for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 22:18:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52738) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okFgu-0001P6-6x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 22:17:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4324.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.24]:62927) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okFgr-00076U-Va for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Oct 2022 22:17:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1665973033; x=1666232233; bh=5Aoi/o2pA+MyATsaMua//99LJWXZHCB7OJZBv79xfyI=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=qF6dBUMC35w96stTo6oYE7BVlOG2GlZNetAGhnszZSkvKMpVQP+urfvPqMCnJCXlE vV3xZZheyD8v4leLjVxp6SzdYd/96L52rxJSv8SGoVPwFVQeaXMEicJ7cGSy4MMdc+ nvq1K6XQ3kIUTO9G5eQ7RkdbvjM7clxyvFTMjpiQ/cl//dNFgMiqv+2jubo6TDtWrg y38WgzYN2zrlNwoDhVMRfTuKEah5l60vvuLvtQyARFLCS6JD1xWUtl7gxOmZqFt/cS S3S0QiuN4FS8vADdrWiEgroVyKJMbjjBmrtBUaYdmKiS2uaTgNlahOen4QcynCouif H3jRHjgNQGRGA== In-Reply-To: <87sfjncmbn.fsf@web.de> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.24; envelope-from=heimeborgia@protonmail.com; helo=mail-4324.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140053 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Monday, October 17th, 2022 at 12:42 AM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Heime heimeborgia@protonmail.com writes: >=20 > > Have gone through "An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp" but ca= nnot > > assimilate all that. >=20 >=20 > That's good. Nobody can assimilate that all at once. You can leave out > lots of things that are currently not important to you. >=20 > > If there was some condensed article about important tools for the > > elisp programmer, and a crash course on how to use them, that would be > > very helpful. >=20 >=20 > Dunno if that's possible. Depends too much on the background of the > reader. And there is a lot of important stuff to know. I doubt it fits > in a condensed article, and I doubt even more that you would write good > programs after reading that. It would be a trap. The manual is not > that long because the authors were bad, it's full of important things. > If you simplify, no matter where, you'll later regret it. Waste a lot > of time, and still have to read all of it. >=20 > > What I did was look at the emacs website displaying everything on one > > web page. The Gnu Emacs Info Viewer, is that when you type "info" at > > the shell command line? >=20 >=20 > The command line program "info" is a reader for the Info documentation > for the command line. Emacs has its own integrated and very nice Info > reader: type C-h i. >=20 > Oh, now I see that you only read the introduction, not the Elisp > reference manual. I suggest to have a look at that one, too. >=20 > Yeah sorry if we sometimes sound rude, but all shortcuts are traps, > all - sorry. It's hard to defer what one actually wants to do and > read that boring stuff instead. I guess all of us tried some shortcuts. > We all wasted lots of time more or less. >=20 > Michael. I am an impatient person, and in the habit of running doing a job, =20 which can blow people's fuses. Great that things have settled down now.