From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Fabrice Popineau" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gnu Emacs and Vista ASLR feature Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 11:59:07 +0200 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sup=E9lec?= Message-ID: References: <483E84C0.5090708@gnu.org> <85bq2og24w.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212401230 27456 80.91.229.12 (2 Jun 2008 10:07:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 10:07:10 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 02 12:07:51 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K36xD-0003gG-Fx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:07:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42503 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K36wR-00005W-D3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:07:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K36pC-0003yz-7b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:59:34 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K36p9-0003xN-E3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:59:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41206 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K36p8-0003wh-5X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:59:30 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:46142 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K36p7-0006j2-OE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:59:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K36oy-0006rq-8P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:59:20 +0000 Original-Received: from sparky.metz.supelec.fr ([193.48.224.190]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:59:20 +0000 Original-Received: from fabrice.popineau by sparky.metz.supelec.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:59:20 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sparky.metz.supelec.fr In-Reply-To: <85bq2og24w.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18000 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98218 Archived-At: >> Hello, Fabrice! Long time no spoken. Welcome to GNU Emacs (I think >> you used to use XEmacs in the past). Eli, Pleased to meet you again :-) > I think that considering ongoing TeX developments, the current state of > Emacs warrants a reevaluation, and the same might be somewhat sadly said > about the current state of XEmacs. I am certainly glad that a system > integrator of Fabrice's level is putting Emacs through the motions. Thanks David for the nice words. I wonder if I will have enough time to package something along what I did some years ago for XEmacs + TeX. I wanted to have a look a the current state of all Emacsen on native win32 platform : GNU Emacs, but I'm also having a look at Climacs. It is true (and fortunate !) that in a few years, the situation has changed, but experiences vary according to the target platform. Emacs23 seems in a very good shape, but it could probably also benefit of a couple of XEmacs features (only my feeling). Best regards, Fabrice