From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christian Herenz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Octave Help Mode? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:32:43 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208272262 3018 80.91.229.12 (15 Apr 2008 15:11:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:11:02 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 15 17:11:41 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JlmMV-000641-Dx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:42:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JlmLr-0001Xp-25 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:41:39 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news.astraweb.com!newsrouter-eu.astraweb.com!multikabel.net!newsfeed10.multikabel.net!tudelft.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!feeder.news-service.com!news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 63 Original-X-Trace: feeder.motzarella.org U2FsdGVkX19NsEgGe+pbJT/0ZHKYCs8yc/6NsX55ED/PDci7vl9Ta8GK3CQHDkAeSfa3QkQcp5ankfaFR/VRdfm4mNOmFarIQ0kIbmlVbNbi3jztsDA3UzNZ3tBLjCckSBrTiEf1sGZs02+DtV6wQw== Original-X-Complaints-To: Please send complaints to abuse@motzarella.org with full headers Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:32:54 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+ovJZxmIdwdlvkLqelRWvXO6TQkuXWpVo= Cancel-Lock: sha1:dYbNkQkjTcCQ7wTO0BSGs2c1YOo= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 SUSE/1.1.7-3.4 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:157941 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:53307 Archived-At: David Hansen schrieb: > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:42:41 +0200 Christian Herenz wrote: >>> It's working here but I use a developer version of emacs. Is C-h S >>> working? >> I am not at my computer at the moment, so I cannot test this. However, >> I noted yesterday, when browsing the GNU Octave Info File lots of >> Nodes which are shown in the index are actually not present. Is this >> right, or does openSUSE ship a wrong info file. Sorry, this tends to >> be more an octave question, but since I am using it inside Emacs, I >> ask here. > > This seems to be suses fault. With Debians GNU Octave, version 3.0.0 > the manual looks pretty complete here. I installed now from SUSEs Science Repo Octave 3.0.0, and now everything works as expected. Seems to be a bug in the default octave package which is shipped with 10.2. >>> Maybe adjust INFO_PATH but that sounds like a Debilian bug. >>> >> Do you mean the shell-variable INFO_PATH, which I would export in my >> .profile (or simialar), or do you mean something emacs-specific? > > The shell variable > >> As stated above, just entering "info octave" in a normal terminal >> works fine. > > Hmm, you can try to set `Info-additional-directory-list' then, but this > actually looks more like an Emacs bug to me. This is acutally what happens on the debian-machine I occasionally have to work on. But it seems, that sarge ships a rather old version of octave: GNU Octave, version 2.1.73. So would be nice, if a sarge user could report on this issue? I would contact the sysadmin at our university, but it seems that they are playing a little bit the devils-advocate by promoting heavily Matlab (they won't give me full points, cause I solve my exercises in octave-code rather than with matlab (even pointing out the differences)... really pi**** about this atm, but this NEEDS to be discussed somewhere else (hints?)) > >> The thing is, I really want to work with octave, and I just think it >> is good to look something up directly inside the environment I am >> doing my octave stuff (i.e. emacs), however since I am fan of printed >> works I ordered via my libary today the "GNU Octave Manual" by >> J.W. Eaton (Network Theory Ltd.). Since it is not present in my >> home-libary I have to wait a little bit (cause its inter-libary loan), >> but I will fill out some forms today, that more "official" printed GNU >> Documentation will be available in our libary soon. At present, there >> is actually none :( > > You can also produce pdf or ps from the texinfo sources if that is good > enough for you. Yeah, and I could print that out. But I really like to have a book. Maybe I am a bit old-fashioned in that way, but actually a browsing the information in a book than in a pile of printed paper (or even worse, a pdf on the screen) seems to be more natural to me. But just for looking up things quickly, the octave-help is best. Greets, Christian