From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: how to find out where a variable is changed? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Public Access Networks Corp. Message-ID: References: <743b3625-381c-4b76-81a9-af63b9ef6b42@e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <87abli65gs.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206935649 13086 80.91.229.12 (31 Mar 2008 03:54:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:54:09 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 31 05:54:41 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JgB6Q-00045H-Uj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 05:54:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JgB5o-0004Gu-VJ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:53:57 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!panix!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 51 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Original-X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1206929820 22395 166.84.1.3 (31 Mar 2008 02:17:00 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:17:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:157501 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:53:41 -0400 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:52875 Archived-At: In article , Peter Dyballa wrote: > >Am 01.03.2008 um 16:35 schrieb sunway: > >> the variable is changed outside, but where is it changed? > >~/.emacs, your personal init file? Don't you see the hyper-link to >the customise interface? What hyper-link -- in one's .emacs? For me, at least, it's a new concept -- a hyper-link in a .emacs? I really don't understand what you (two) are talking about :-( ------- Separately, and a real pain for me, I've never understood just how to use customize. (Edit options, yes, from way, way, back -- but not this "newfangled" customize thing.) I guess the main problem for me is that it's windows-like, in that you've got to traversing down in a tree, easy enough if you already know what's where in the tree. But without that knowledge, I'm just stuck there at the top, having no idea where to go down to. Like windows, you see in some book instructions to "foo" --> "parties" --> "drinks" ---> ... What a pain having to have pretty-much memorized what's where. I always thought unix stuff was more flat than windows, eg large (well, HUGE) numbers of commands under a /bin, like sec (1) man-pages, enormous, and all flat. Anyway, every other emacs-user seems happy with customize - maybe I could get some hints from you guys? Thanks! David