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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:317985 Archived-At: Adding Mohsin Kaleem to the discussion. On Mon, Apr 22, 2024 at 07:05:20PM GMT, Ergus wrote: >Hi Juri: > >Give a look to this: > >https://github.com/mohkale/projection > >It seems similar to what we may consider to support in vanilla. OR at >least provide the interactive interface wrapper functions in order to >make project.el a bit more standard. > >On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 04:44:36AM GMT, Dmitry Gutov wrote: >>Hi Ergus! >> >>On 06/04/2024 05:05, Ergus wrote: >> >>>Here I attach a new patch with what I think is the best approach to >>>handle the extra info for projects. This implementation is pretty simple >>>for both sides (user, project.el and backends) and uses your main idea >>>of the generics + a custom. >>> >>>However I decided not to use only the custom as you suggested, because >>>considering the project initialization it will require a complex and >>>error prone approach to initalize the backend variables correctly (for >>>example, when some buffers are already open). >>> >>>With this implementation the backends only need to define the optional >>>generic specializations and the policy is pretty simple to explain (see >>>the doc strings). >>> >>>I also modifies the backend project on github to match this new api, so, >>>you can check it as well. >> >>How about the idea with the orthogonal hook, then, as in the >>attached patch? Something I described before. >> >>I think your github code would be easy enough to adapt to use it. >> >>WDYT? > > >