From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs bindings in other programs Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Public Access Networks Corp. Message-ID: References: <1193416413.534581.16220@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <9qsl3r9nom.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> <87d4usupsu.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1195778477 4279 80.91.229.12 (23 Nov 2007 00:41:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:41:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 23 01:41:14 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IvMba-00045B-61 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2007 01:41:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvMbM-0004VH-1N for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:41:00 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!panix!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 25 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com Original-X-Trace: reader1.panix.com 1195777206 28509 166.84.1.3 (23 Nov 2007 00:20:06 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:20:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:153987 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:49418 Archived-At: In article <87d4usupsu.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au>, Tim X wrote: > >Note that you can call other X apps from within emacs as a sub-process, you >just can't run them 'within' emacs itself. The downside is that you don't ... Like in dired, "!" on a .ps-file will run ghostview (I think I reacall), on a .pdf will use either acrobat or xpdf, etc. For me, the problem is that when you do that, everything else in emacs is (or looks like it's) frozen. Problematic when you want to read through some doc, and while doing it, to pause while checking something out in some other buffer. No can do, at least not by "!" alone. Would be nice if, say, a C-u ! put the new prog into background or something, letting you bounce back and forth between emacs and the app. David