From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26180: Remove motif toolkit support Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:14:31 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1489965311 22093 195.159.176.226 (19 Mar 2017 23:15:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:15:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) To: 26180@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 20 00:15:07 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cpk2U-0005Db-Qv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:15:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58477 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpk2a-0005if-LD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:15:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49672) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpk2S-0005hE-5k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:15:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpk2R-0006MF-6A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:15:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:37428) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpk2R-0006M9-2d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:15:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cpk2Q-00025p-TN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:15:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 26180 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14899652787985 (code B ref -1); Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Mar 2017 23:14:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35626 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cpk22-00024j-Ih for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58643) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cpk22-00024W-2T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpk1w-0006Fx-9a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:14:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51940) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cpk1w-0006Ft-6J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:14:32 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cpk1v-0005YU-Pb; Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:14:31 -0400 X-Spook: Chobetsu mailbomb Ansar al-Islam SEAL Team 6 computer X-Ran: l:3ftM|FlB\%$c&2"1)[vh~F\Ei-,_G+sZ(3{{3D;")".coOr|Z#Z8k1fOOZ:W;syf0>Ae X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130738 Archived-At: Package: emacs Version: 25.2 Severity: wishlist I'd like to suggest removing support for the Motif toolkit. Motivation: Supporting more toolkits (gtk2, gtk3, lucid, motif, none) makes it harder to develop relevant low-level features. The Motif toolkit build of Emacs seems to be very little used: - Fedora packages just a Gtk version - Debian packages Gtk and Lucid - Only ~20 mentions of "motif" on bug-gnu-emacs, ever. Most are just comparison testing (I see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GNU_Emacs mentions it, but my suspicion is that this is just an attempt at completeness when listing alternatives to Gtk. Since it's listed first, I wonder if this has caused more people to use it than otherwise would. All just speculation on my part.) (The "none" toolkit is also never used in practice, but I understand it may be useful as a base/reference.)