From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16038: 24.3; latest change to with-help-window makes temp-buffer-browse useless Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 09:48:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <52D14E9F.5030001@gmx.at> <52D16627.4080604@gmx.at> <52D2661A.4000105@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390499359 24610 80.91.229.3 (23 Jan 2014 17:49:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16038@debbugs.gnu.org To: Leo Liu , Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 23 18:49:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W6OP7-0000ZU-Fk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 18:49:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42573 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6OP7-00016f-4V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:49:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49367) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6OOv-0000vI-Sr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:49:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6OOk-0004kN-P2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:49:13 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:47908) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6OOk-0004kJ-MT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:49:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6OOk-0006OJ-6f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:49:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16038 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16038-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16038.139049933324540 (code B ref 16038); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16038) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2014 17:48:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33694 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6OOa-0006Nk-OR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:48:52 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:51773) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W6OOZ-0006Na-4y for 16038@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 12:48:51 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s0NHmnBr019990 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:48:49 GMT Original-Received: from userz7022.oracle.com (userz7022.oracle.com [156.151.31.86]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0NHmmN2021647 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:48:48 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0017.oracle.com (abhmp0017.oracle.com [141.146.116.23]) by userz7022.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0NHmlIR021627; Thu, 23 Jan 2014 17:48:47 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83920 Archived-At: > Martin, now that we have this good news, will you be able to go ahead > with deprecating with-output-to-temp-buffer and merge it with > with-temp-buffer-window or vice versa? Huh? What's this about? Why on Earth would we deprecate `with-output-to-temp-buffer'? How about some reasons for such a proposal? My code and other 3rd-party libraries use `with-output-to-temp-buffer' all over the place. But I have no code that uses `with-temp-buffer-window'. And googling for it shows one hit to the Elisp manual and the rest are hits to Emacs bugs! I do not see zillions of users of `with-temp-buffer-window', which was not introduced until Emacs 24.3.