From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: request to reconsider libnettle/libhogweed Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 09:58:57 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: References: <83a89gq3us.fsf@gnu.org> <87bmtjiv0w.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1488477588 2915 195.159.176.226 (2 Mar 2017 17:59:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 17:59:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.7.0 To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 02 18:59:44 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cjV0q-0008Hb-QO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 18:59:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53758 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjV0t-0005Y7-R1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 12:59:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57334) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjV0O-0005Wx-4M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 12:59:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjV0K-0006f4-8L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 12:59:08 -0500 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:50292) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjV0K-0006eX-1h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 12:59:04 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D86B16012A for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2017 09:59:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id NQ494Vt3n8pQ for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2017 09:59:00 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACC1160140 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2017 09:59:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id fZLMdy18AUnH for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2017 09:59:00 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU (Penguin.CS.UCLA.EDU [131.179.64.200]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 54E9416012A for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2017 09:59:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87bmtjiv0w.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:212714 Archived-At: On 03/02/2017 06:59 AM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > * we already link to GnuTLS, which means those C functions are available > already. If Emacs's module system were always present and worked well, this could be supported via a module that consisted entirely of glue, i.e., a module that merely exposes C functions already present in Emacs. Since the module system isn't guaranteed, though, it may be better to create new built-in Elisp functions for this, at least for now. Is there some way that we can say "these functions are built-in now, but may be moved to a module later"? If not, perhaps there should be.