From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 06:52:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <1429555155-4695-1-git-send-email-eggert@cs.ucla.edu> <5535974D.9050207@cs.ucla.edu> <5535C7F3.7020107@cs.ucla.edu> <83618p5y9w.fsf@gnu.org> <83vbgp49ve.fsf@gnu.org> <83pp6x45x5.fsf@gnu.org> <5536ACB3.9040707@yandex.ru> <83lhhk4phe.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429710809 4727 80.91.229.3 (22 Apr 2015 13:53:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20385@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu To: Eli Zaretskii , Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 22 15:53:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykv5V-0006Gp-1M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:53:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35347 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykv5U-0006Hk-B6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:53:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46343) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykv5P-0006Gf-4F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:53:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykv5L-0005Ns-31 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46209) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykv5K-0005Ni-Vp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:53:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykv5K-0000DY-Hi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:53:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20385 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 20385-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20385.1429710756801 (code B ref 20385); Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20385) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Apr 2015 13:52:36 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35985 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykv4t-0000Cq-Hd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:52:35 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:45109) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ykv4r-0000Ce-RY for 20385@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:52:34 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id t3MDqJ8V006561 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:52:19 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t3MDqHcS016660 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:52:17 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t3MDqHW5012905; Wed, 22 Apr 2015 13:52:17 GMT In-Reply-To: <83lhhk4phe.fsf@gnu.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101868 Archived-At: I will add that one increasingly important use of `...' is that doc gets copied and pasted to other, non-Emacs environments. You might think that `...' is "ugly" (and that is the ONLY reason that's been given so far for changing it), but it has the distinct advantage that it is a unique way of quoting that separates itself from both strings ("...") and ordinary text quoting (curly quotes, double and single). If you post doc pieces into a context such as Stack Exchange, for example, you need only change the ' in `...' to `, to have that new context also, like Emacs, treat the quoted sexp specially - not a ordinary quoted text. That is, SE uses `...` instead of `...', but it does the same thing Emacs does, to make the result stand out as code and not as just any old quoted text. If you change `...' to ordinary curly quoting, you lose distinguishing what it quotes as code. Just one more consideration, another reason why the proposed change is a bad idea, IMHO.