From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 10:57:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <87mwkgb74k.fsf@yandex.ru> <52A02473.8090005@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386269905 19288 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2013 18:58:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:58:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: martin rudalics , Andrew Hyatt , Dmitry Gutov , Tom , emacs-devel To: Stefan Monnier , Bozhidar Batsov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 05 19:58:28 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Voe84-0002BB-GY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 19:58:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55249 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Voe84-0004jg-65 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:58:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55475) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Voe7t-0004hf-4f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:58:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Voe7h-0006qS-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:58:17 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:48653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Voe7h-0006pU-Hd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:58:05 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rB5IvwkU028068 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:57:59 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rB5IvvRR015045 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:57:57 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rB5Ivuf0024297; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 18:57:56 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166132 Archived-At: > > +1 - I don't think we need show-paren-mode enabled by default that > > much, but we definitely need to disable the horrible > > `blink-matching-paren'. >=20 > I do think we need some paren-matching enabled by default. > I'm surprised blink-matching-paren can elicit such strong sentiments, > since I myself find it very nice, providing just enough info to be > useful (including when the open paren is out of sight) without getting > in the way (you can just ignore the cursor-jump if you don't care about i= t). FWIW, I have both `show-paren-mode' and `blink-matching-paren' turned on. There is *no* cursor bouncing from the latter, when both are on (at least I don't notice any). And the latter gives me the advantage of showing info in the echo area whenever the match is off-window.