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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>, "Fu Yuan" <casouri@gmail.com>,
	"Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	"Lars Ingebrigtsen" <larsi@gnus.org>,
	"Theodor Thornhill" <theo@thornhill.no>,
	"Jostein Kjønigsen" <jostein@secure.kjonigsen.net>
Cc: 60559@debbugs.gnu.org, mardani29@yahoo.es, epg@pretzelnet.org
Subject: bug#60559: 29.0.60; "Cannot activate tree-sitter" spam
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 15:17:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fda4e6e7-92c3-06d9-748c-c9edecf59697@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83h6x5xym7.fsf@gnu.org>

On 05/01/2023 08:51, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> So here's a suggestion for such a solution: we make all the
> *-ts-mode's optional.  That is, we don't add any of them to
> auto-mode-alist unless the file *-ts-mode.el is loaded, and we
> document them all in NEWS and the user manual as optional.  users who
> want them will have to manually activate them.  This way, the original
> use case that started this bug report is automatically solved, and the
> other use case, where the user intends to activate one of these modes,
> is also served by showing the warning, which in that case is perfectly
> justified: the user asked for something that we cannot do, so we warn
> him/her.

Personally, I'd rather the users be made aware that they can install 
such-and-such grammars and enjoy good support for the file types they 
just visited.

I understand that it can be a bother for people who are used to just 
editing such files using fundamental-mode, but they could similarly 
complain if we added a major mode (for a given file type) that is 
functional but still different from the "last 25 years".

So I agree with your original assessment that it's not a bug.

What we could do here, though, to reduce the aggravation:

- Move the warning to *Messages*. It will be slightly less noticeable, 
but won't occupy "half the screen" either.

and/or

- Add a new defcustom which would allow people to silence the 
tree-sitter related warnings altogether. tree-sitter major modes without 
available grammars work more or less like fundamental-mode.

Or we can just recommend such users edit their auto-mode-alist to 
associate fundamental-mode with those file types. That only takes a few 
minutes.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-01-05 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-04 14:48 bug#60559: 29.0.60; "Cannot activate tree-sitter" spam Eric Gillespie
2023-01-04 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-04 19:40   ` Daniel Martín via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-04 20:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  0:43       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-05  6:51       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  7:06         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  7:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:00             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  8:26               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:40                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  8:42                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  8:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  9:05                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-01-05  7:57         ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2023-01-05  8:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:32             ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2023-01-05  8:44         ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05  8:48           ` Gregory Heytings
2023-01-05  9:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  8:56           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 13:17         ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2023-01-05 14:02         ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-15 14:01         ` Make all tree-sitter modes optional Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-15 23:39           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-16  7:43             ` Theodor Thornhill
2023-01-16 16:30               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-16 12:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-16 13:06               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-16 14:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-16 14:50                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-16 14:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 12:59                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 13:47                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 14:32                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 14:52                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 15:22                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 17:02                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 17:10                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 17:38                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 17:59                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 18:04                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 18:21                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 18:40                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 18:49                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 19:03                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 19:21                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18  1:11                                                     ` Yuan Fu
2023-01-18  1:23                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18  3:34                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-18  3:52                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18 12:06                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-18 14:00                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-18 14:51                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-18 12:36                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2023-01-17 17:34                             ` treesit-forward-sexp (was: Make all tree-sitter modes optional) Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 17:40                               ` Theodor Thornhill
2023-01-17 18:17                                 ` treesit-forward-sexp Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 17:50                               ` treesit-forward-sexp (was: Make all tree-sitter modes optional) Dmitry Gutov
2023-01-17 17:59                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-16  1:12           ` Make all tree-sitter modes optional Po Lu
2023-01-17 17:30           ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 17:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17 18:19               ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 18:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 19:08               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-14 19:29                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-14 21:02                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-15 15:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 17:57                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-15 18:33                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 20:31                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-16  5:41                             ` tomas
2023-02-16  7:27                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 22:05                               ` Yuan Fu
     [not found]                           ` <87v8k2g04m.fsf@dick>
2023-02-15 20:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                               ` <87mt5eegkw.fsf@dick>
2023-02-16  7:53                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16  8:52                                   ` Po Lu
2023-02-15 21:40                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-17 13:30                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-17 13:37                             ` Po Lu
2023-02-17 13:46                               ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-17 14:16                                 ` Po Lu
2023-02-17 14:40                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 14:56                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-17 15:04                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                         ` <8735741fic.fsf@dick>
2023-02-17 15:41                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-17 16:04                                       ` Make all tree-sitter modes optional Stefan Kangas
2023-02-17 17:42                                         ` Morgan Willcock
2023-02-17 15:15                                     ` Gregory Heytings
2023-02-17 13:54                               ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]                               ` <d4c1a7f6-b5bf-f4f3-8d79-1c6b1d07cf70@yandex.ru>
2023-02-17 14:22                                 ` Po Lu
2023-02-17 14:58                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-17 15:18                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-15 18:34                         ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-15 19:01                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-15 19:26                             ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-15 19:47                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 19:53                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-15 20:06                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 21:04                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-16  7:42                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16  9:49                                         ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2023-02-16 11:48                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 14:41                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-16 15:42                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 16:45                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-16 17:05                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 19:14                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-16 20:07                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-16  5:45                                     ` tomas
2023-02-16  8:26                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16 10:30                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-02-16 12:38                                           ` Po Lu
2023-02-16 12:53                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-15 20:24                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-16  7:05                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16  7:53                                   ` Theodor Thornhill
2023-02-16  8:34                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-16  8:46                                       ` Theodor Thornhill
2023-02-16 11:58                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-16 11:56                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-16 14:48                                       ` Theodor Thornhill via Emacs development discussions.
2023-02-16 14:56                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-02-16 15:15                                           ` Theodor Thornhill
2023-02-15 23:48                               ` Lynn Winebarger
2023-02-16  2:56                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-15 19:07                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 19:27                             ` Stefan Monnier
2023-02-15 21:06                             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2023-02-16  7:44                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-02-15 18:25                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-04 19:59   ` bug#60559: 29.0.60; "Cannot activate tree-sitter" spam Stephen Berman
2023-01-04 20:10     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-04 20:33       ` Stephen Berman
2023-01-05  6:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05  7:46           ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-05  7:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-05 14:59               ` Eric Gillespie
2023-01-22 13:24                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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