From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: Why flip RET and C-j with electric-indent-mode? Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 15:52:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <20141128153825244895059@bob.proulx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417218765 16467 80.91.229.3 (28 Nov 2014 23:52:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 23:52:45 +0000 (UTC) To: Bob Proulx , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 29 00:52:38 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XuVL3-0006wN-IB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 00:52:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46344 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuVL3-0008On-2Z for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 18:52:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42344) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuVKk-0008Nn-J9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 18:52:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuVKb-0003m7-Rt for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 18:52:18 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:26025) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XuVKb-0003m3-MF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 18:52:09 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id sASNq6tL015331 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 28 Nov 2014 23:52:07 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id sASNq6Xc012410 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 28 Nov 2014 23:52:06 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id sASNq5QB006135; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 23:52:06 GMT In-Reply-To: <20141128153825244895059@bob.proulx.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:101286 Archived-At: > Now those two actions are reversed! Aaarrrgghh! > The change is to set electric-indent-mode all of the time. > Even in fundamental-mode? That is a terrible thing to do > to users. Rug. Standing on rug? Yank rug! Aaarrrgghh! indeed. We old farts can either put things back the way they were, locally, or adjust to the newfangled way of things. Of course, if you use multiple Emacs versions you had better put things back the way they were, or you will be between two chairs...