From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "cmr.Pent@gmail.com" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: usability problem of emacs describe-mode Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:44:38 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: <76fcf833-ad89-44f2-b227-e18295317ca2@p13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1235727696 26028 80.91.229.12 (27 Feb 2009 09:41:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:41:36 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 27 10:42:52 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LczEy-0007qL-6k for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:42:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36038 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LczDd-0004RI-21 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:41:21 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs,comp.lang.lisp Original-Lines: 41 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 89.111.144.78 Original-X-Trace: posting.google.com 1235724278 26381 127.0.0.1 (27 Feb 2009 08:44:38 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:44:38 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com; posting-host=89.111.144.78; posting-account=gGXeuQoAAAAj0VaJ1PQ4rEKCfxef3hne User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.0 acdlab.garnet.ru:8080 (squid/2.6.STABLE18) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:167127 comp.emacs:97872 comp.lang.lisp:261865 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:62425 Archived-At: Hi all! It turns out that "^L" issue can be nicely resolved using PrettyControlL minor mode by Drew Adams: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PrettyControlL http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/pp-c-l.el I'm using the following customizations to display a nice, window-wide line instead of "^L" string: (custom-set-variables ... '(pp^L-^L-string-function (lambda nil (make-string (1- (window-width)) (string-to-char " ")))) '(pp^L-^L-string-pre "") '(pretty-control-l-mode t) ... (custom-set-faces ... '(pp^L-highlight ((t (:inherit shadow :strike-through t)))) ... (add-hook 'window-setup-hook 'refresh-pretty-control-l) (add-hook 'window-configuration-change-hook 'refresh-pretty-control-l) ---- frequently, whenever i read some post by Xah Lee, often am amazed at what kind absolute idiot created it. And you constantly hear Xah incessantly discuss and fight about how to improve Emacs usability for the masses yet going nowhere. Xah Lee, a fat green troll, with his mad ideas has been around since 1998 with huge experience in Elisp, today, his Emacs Odyssay 2010 it is still some 0.0000000002% user base. What a fat ass to ridicule upon. Andrey Paramonov