From: "Miles Bader" <miles@gnu.org>
To: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Display-based word wrapping
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:40:17 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc339e4a0806221940x72004cedj112b6aeccd667460@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7icgsyf5.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> A similar argument applies to wrapping indicators: For traditional
>> wrapping modes, it's Ok, and even useful, when wrapping indicators are
>> quite noticeable, because they usually indicate an exceptional
>> condition. But for word wrapping, wrapping is the normal case, so more
>> care should be taken to make sure wrapping indicators [if any] are not
>> annoying.
>
> IOW, word-wrapping will be a big time sink?
> Yes, I definitely expect that: line-end indicators, visual-line
> movement, ... and I'm sure people will find more things to wish
> for afterwards (adaptive-fill-prefix anyone?)
I'm not sure what your point is .. if you mean that we should add a
"simple" word-wrapping feature to the display engine first, ignoring
other features which make it usable for regular use, maybe you're
right. I think many of those "time-sink" features are necessary for
it to be really usable in a way users expect, though, so we should at
least make a tentative plan to add them.
[Display-time word-wrapping is probably a nice thing, but I don't
think it's quite as simple as people often seem to assume it is --
devil, details, etc.]
The visual movement stuff may not be be necessary for "display only"
use -- e.g. in a Gnus article buffer -- and we probably want to just
turn off wrapping indicators in such usage.
-Miles
--
Frank Lloyd Wright - "TV is chewing gum for the eyes."
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-23 2:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-22 19:54 Display-based word wrapping Chong Yidong
2008-06-22 20:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-06-22 20:33 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-22 20:54 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-06-22 22:08 ` David Reitter
2008-06-22 22:24 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-22 23:45 ` David Reitter
2008-06-23 0:32 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-22 20:12 ` David Kastrup
2008-06-22 22:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-22 23:40 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-23 1:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-23 2:04 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-23 16:42 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-23 18:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-22 23:38 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-23 0:25 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-23 0:22 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-23 1:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-23 1:51 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-23 2:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-23 2:40 ` Miles Bader [this message]
2008-06-23 18:24 ` Stefan Monnier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-24 18:06 Chong Yidong
2008-06-24 18:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-24 19:54 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-24 20:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-24 21:52 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-25 1:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-25 1:46 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-25 3:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-25 2:04 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-25 3:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-25 18:14 ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-25 18:58 ` Stefan Monnier
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