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From: "Miles Bader" <miles@gnu.org>
To: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Display-based word wrapping
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:40:17 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc339e4a0806221940x72004cedj112b6aeccd667460@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7icgsyf5.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> A similar argument applies to wrapping indicators:  For traditional
>> wrapping modes, it's Ok, and even useful, when wrapping indicators are
>> quite noticeable, because they usually indicate an exceptional
>> condition.  But for word wrapping, wrapping is the normal case, so more
>> care should be taken to make sure wrapping indicators [if any] are not
>> annoying.
>
> IOW, word-wrapping will be a big time sink?
> Yes, I definitely expect that: line-end indicators, visual-line
> movement, ... and I'm sure people will find more things to wish
> for afterwards (adaptive-fill-prefix anyone?)

I'm not sure what your point is .. if you mean that we should add a
"simple" word-wrapping feature to the display engine first, ignoring
other features which make it usable for regular use, maybe you're
right.  I think many of those "time-sink" features are necessary for
it to be really usable in a way users expect, though, so we should at
least make a tentative plan to add them.

[Display-time word-wrapping is probably a nice thing, but I don't
think it's quite as simple as people often seem to assume it is --
devil, details, etc.]

The visual movement stuff may not be be necessary for "display only"
use -- e.g. in a Gnus article buffer -- and we probably want to just
turn off wrapping indicators in such usage.

-Miles

-- 
Frank Lloyd Wright  - "TV is chewing gum for the eyes."




  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-23  2:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-22 19:54 Display-based word wrapping Chong Yidong
2008-06-22 20:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-06-22 20:33   ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-22 20:54     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-06-22 22:08     ` David Reitter
2008-06-22 22:24       ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-22 23:45         ` David Reitter
2008-06-23  0:32     ` Miles Bader
2008-06-22 20:12 ` David Kastrup
2008-06-22 22:02   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-22 23:40     ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-23  1:23       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-23  2:04         ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-23 16:42           ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-23 18:29           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-22 23:38   ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-23  0:25     ` Miles Bader
2008-06-23  0:22 ` Miles Bader
2008-06-23  1:27   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-23  1:51     ` Miles Bader
2008-06-23  2:03       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-23  2:40         ` Miles Bader [this message]
2008-06-23 18:24           ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-24 18:06 Chong Yidong
2008-06-24 18:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-24 19:54   ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-24 20:23     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-24 21:52       ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-25  1:41         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-25  1:46           ` Miles Bader
2008-06-25  3:45             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-25  2:04           ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-25  3:48             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-25 18:14               ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-25 18:58                 ` Stefan Monnier

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