From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Amendments in calc-units.el Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:33:00 +0900 Message-ID: References: <87hdbihexg.fsf@wilson.rwth-aachen.de> <87irvuvcip.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1129671346 15787 80.91.229.2 (18 Oct 2005 21:35:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 18 23:35:43 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ERz58-0002Mq-JU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:33:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ERz57-000356-VA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:33:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ERz4w-000351-5h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:33:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ERz4v-00034p-NZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:33:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ERz4v-00034m-J0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:33:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.194] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ERz4v-0002NJ-G4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:33:01 -0400 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so82805wra for ; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:33:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cegnqL+0bXx0EmBMhPCwX4txGANZn5nQeOa9caEcZwuI0YYoeECOAw8DsLrC16+i5Hk5cdIe9AERVMfIZTT4hrzEq26P5oVxNzC0s7a0s4iiAS+f9GE3FW0X890/vo3K1P9u8SWNXRI0bpmfziHnruK025Tsg5zZgH4Q/YB6dxQ= Original-Received: by 10.54.109.11 with SMTP id h11mr317647wrc; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.54.160.6 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: belanger@truman.edu In-Reply-To: <87irvuvcip.fsf@vh213602.truman.edu> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:44276 Archived-At: 2005/10/19, Jay Belanger : > > I suspect more calc users use postscript points than "real points"... > > I don't have a strong opinion on this, but would using "point" for > PostScript point be less accurate? I dunno; I did a bit of googling the last time I searched, and the name "point" is a lot more vague than I previously thought -- there are like 5 different kinds of "points" used historically, all of which are annoyingly close to each other, but different enough to cause problems. However I think people _do_ use the term, and would be surprised if it isn't understood. If you're gonna pick something to resolve an ambiguous term, your decision is inevitably going to be wrong for somebody, but by picking the most commonly used definition, at least you reduce the number of such cases. [Maybe 25 years ago, the tex definition would have been the best resolution, but I don't think that's true now.] > Also, using "point" for point (of > whatever kind) and "tpt" for TeX point lacks symmetry; perhaps > "texpoint" for TeX point would be better. Well you're probably right that it should be "pspoint", with an alias. [The common name for what tex uses seems to be "typographer's point"] -miles -- Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.