From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: In FOR-RELEASE Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:02:47 +0900 Message-ID: References: <17078.63968.408507.263515@notch.amtp.cam.ac.uk> Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119317525 30050 80.91.229.2 (21 Jun 2005 01:32:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 01:32:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Richard Stallman , Reiner Steib Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 21 03:32:02 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DkXbs-0006Q6-4k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:31:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DkXiC-0005LG-11 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:38:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DkXhz-0005Kc-Go for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:37:47 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DkXhx-0005K9-WA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:37:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DkXeW-0004HN-Eq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:34:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.200] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DkXCs-0006yl-2h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:05:38 -0400 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so19577wri for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:02:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hz1hhmqySifponk88o6PTp1n5dhc71Nw7VRvSCjJ1elqtJgTpe1KI/yJ0rkgVjJ/DPOgnrhm+w9SPFBT/IgZv95baMHIsd+BDe2HiE/E6jp5FwGZPgEdBuHp19jQ3sdbxI68GWnPZMVPmhE2aES8jKOGPYL81tKu7XVa5Po1Guw= Original-Received: by 10.54.59.34 with SMTP id h34mr9027wra; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.54.19.31 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: Stephen Eglen In-Reply-To: <17078.63968.408507.263515@notch.amtp.cam.ac.uk> Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:39209 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:39209 On 6/21/05, Stephen Eglen wrote: > With CVS of 2005-05-31, I still get occasional dumps (once/twice a > week), and they usually seem to be when I'm going to get new mail > using VM 7.17. I am now running emacs under gdb again so the next > time I get an error, I can send a backtrace to whoever wants to see > it! But am I the only one who sees them nowadays? I've never had such a crash, but I don't use VM. I have the impression VM has always been a bit odd in some ways (in particular its approach to encoding/decoding), so it may tickle some otherwise rare bugs. [Emacs has been pretty solid lately for me (the main crashing problems I used to have were the old face cache bugs, but those seem to have been fixed).] -Miles --=20 Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.