From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What holds the release (was: mouse-1-click-follows-link) Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:05:44 +0900 Message-ID: References: <8564wi2ag7.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <17070.36649.525270.871681@farnswood.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com, miles@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118823137 21871 80.91.229.2 (15 Jun 2005 08:12:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 15 10:12:15 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiSzW-0002dx-EA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:11:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiT4h-0000cb-0V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 04:16:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DiT1A-0008JV-TB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 04:13:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DiT0J-0008D5-A2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 04:12:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiT0H-00084H-85 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 04:12:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [64.233.184.193] (helo=wproxy.gmail.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DiSva-0002fQ-Ua for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 04:07:15 -0400 Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 63so3509wri for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:05:44 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H4gNS46tWhJdej4lGRHl//U15iM74UEFGgoa1hcI2Zoc0+FsvySIvYgAc3pLeH6FMbWm0ua89FMnpi1MMB8kKGfy0VxrWQFHuRm66NIvGTwWq0FnHMsTag5m8JcCRvtyjOd++gjnqcXJb6gt55c9H19JImv0PF8+kZqGbX5i/wE= Original-Received: by 10.54.20.40 with SMTP id 40mr193623wrt; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.54.19.31 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38865 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38865 On 6/15/05, Juanma Barranquero wrote: > I think this strengthens my point: do FOR-RELEASE items have to hold > the release, even if we don't know who/when will be able to tackle > them? The thing is, the trickiest-sounding items in FOR-RELEASE -- those under the "* FATAL ERRORS" section -- also sound like some of the most important. Releasing an Emacs that crashes in recent kernels isn't so nice... [Many of the other items seem not so important to me; I suppose if nobody can be found to fix them, many of those could just be dropped without noticeably decreasing the quality of the release.] -Miles --=20 Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.