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From: Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The WHY of Xft
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 07:30:55 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc339e4a0503201430837033d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3r7iamfdd.fsf@lugabout.cloos.reno.nv.us>

On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:49:50 -0500, James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> wrote:
> My understanding is that when a (server-side) font is opened by the
> X server it must determine all of the glyphs' metrics, which requires
> rendering all of them.

I think this is not true -- it seems to be exactly this behavior which
-deferglyphs stops.  Without -deferglyphs, there was indeed a
noticeable freeze when using a CJK font for the first time; I've not
encountered this freeze since.  Debian has had -deferglyphs as the
default for quite a long time (e.g. if you use gdm, in
/etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf); perhaps other distros do not.

Can xft still use bitmap fonts?  In the case of CJK, the commonly
available X bitmap fonts do seem to be generally more attractive at
typical text-editor size than what freetype produces for commonly[*]
available scaled fonts.

[*] By commonly available, I really mean "free and packaged in Debian"
...  Not the best definition I suppose, but maybe indicative of what a
typical lazy user like me sees...

I'm all for xft BTW; don't let my sniping give you the opposite
impression... :-)

-Miles
-- 
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-03-20 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-10 21:45 Antialiased text on X11 James Cloos
2005-03-10 22:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-10 23:15   ` Han Boetes
2005-03-11  4:58     ` Jan D.
2005-03-18 21:21     ` Ali Ijaz Sheikh
2005-03-18 22:39       ` Drew Adams
2005-03-19 22:45         ` The WHY of Xft [was: Re: Antialiased text on X11] James Cloos
2005-03-19 23:47           ` Miles Bader
2005-03-20 16:49             ` The WHY of Xft James Cloos
2005-03-20 22:30               ` Miles Bader [this message]
2005-03-21 14:24                 ` David Hansen
2005-03-21 16:12                 ` James Cloos
2005-03-21  0:32               ` Kenichi Handa
2005-03-19  0:59       ` Antialiased text on X11 Miles Bader
2005-03-19  6:27         ` Jan D.
2005-03-19  7:39           ` Miles Bader
2005-03-19 16:31           ` Stefan Monnier
2005-03-19 16:53             ` Han Boetes
2005-03-20 11:51               ` Jan D.
2005-03-19 21:41             ` Miles Bader
2005-03-20 13:15             ` Jan D.
2005-03-20 22:51             ` Jan D.
2005-03-22 23:44               ` Miles Bader
2005-03-23  2:30                 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-23 17:50                 ` Jan D.
2005-03-25 21:40                   ` Miles Bader
2005-03-26  8:13                     ` Jan D.
2005-03-29 10:52                       ` Geoffrey J. Teale
2005-03-29 11:28                         ` Miles Bader
2005-03-29 12:24                           ` Geoffrey J. Teale
2005-03-29 18:24                           ` Henrik Enberg
2005-03-29 22:50                             ` Miles Bader
2005-03-31  2:42                               ` James Cloos
2005-03-31  4:22                                 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-29 19:28                         ` Jan D.
2005-04-01  8:15                           ` Miles Bader
2005-04-01 16:09                             ` Jan D.
2005-03-22 12:45           ` Oliver Scholz
2005-03-22 14:21             ` Stefan
2005-03-22 14:29               ` Oliver Scholz
2005-03-22 15:17                 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-10 23:19   ` James Cloos
2005-03-11  9:20     ` Geoffrey J. Teale
2005-03-11 15:13       ` Jan D.

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