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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: acm@muc.de, rrandresf@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	rms@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at
Subject: Re: Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay, was: Re: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 04:23:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fbb261eb-5955-e99d-6cfd-99137f2a84a1@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83mu75ey3k.fsf@gnu.org>

On 21.04.2020 17:02, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> A certain amount of work that's also part of redisplay.
> 
> I suggest to use a common terminology, otherwise we will just confuse
> each other.  Let's agree to call "redisplay" only what happens when
> Emacs calls one of the two functions: redisplay_internal and
> echo_area_display.  OK?  Redisplay calls many functions, including
> fontification-functions, but those functions themselves are not to be
> called "redisplay", because they don't display anything.

Do scrolling commands and/or code that calls posn-at-point do anything 
else common with redisplay other than fontification functions?

For instance, converting the buffer text into some other structure that 
rendering the window will be based on. I think you called it a "glyphs 
table" or something like that.

If *that* work (together with fontification) is usually what takes the 
most time during redisplay, there could be some simple cache added on to 
of it, which would make skipping redisplay unnecessary in cases when the 
command would pre-fill such cache.

Otherwise, this idea is a dud.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24  1:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 359+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-21 22:19 emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 rrandresf
2020-03-21 22:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-22  3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-22 12:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-22 15:08   ` Amin Bandali
2020-03-22 16:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-23  2:51     ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-26 19:31       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-26 20:25         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-26 20:38         ` rrandresf
2020-03-27  7:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-27 18:36             ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28  2:48             ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28  7:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28  9:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 11:58                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 11:43                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 12:18                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 13:14                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 13:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 14:13                             ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 13:54                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28 12:43                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28  2:40           ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28  9:21             ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-28  9:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 10:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 14:43               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 15:17                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:10                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:11                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:43                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:08                             ` rrandresf
2020-03-28 21:20                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:38                                 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 21:41                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 22:15                                     ` andres.ramirez
2020-03-28 22:24                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 14:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 16:39                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 17:28                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 18:10                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:54                                   ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 19:20                                     ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 10:15                                   ` font lock with functions (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) David Engster
2020-03-31 10:42                                     ` font lock with functions Adam Porter
2020-03-31 13:20                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 14:25                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 14:56                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 15:04                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 10:13                                       ` David Engster
2020-04-01  1:02                                     ` Stephen Leake
2020-03-29 18:27                               ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:11                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 19:04                               ` 조성빈
2020-03-29 19:12                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30  3:42               ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-30 13:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31  2:28                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-31 13:07                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 16:05                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 17:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:00                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 18:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:34                               ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 19:05                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01  2:07                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-01 13:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02  2:32                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-02  7:32                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03  2:52                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-03  6:59                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 13:38                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-03 16:23                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 16:56                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-04  8:54                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 18:08                                       ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-04  8:55                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05  0:07                                           ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05  1:50                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05  8:46                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 20:38                                               ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05 10:23                                             ` Inlining policy (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 18:15                                               ` Inlining policy Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 18:26                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-06 19:17                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 21:45                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08  4:03                                               ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 18:28                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 18:44                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 19:09                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 21:00                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 21:31                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-03 17:47                                   ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04  8:56                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 10:45                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 11:10                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 11:29                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05  8:44                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 13:08                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 15:50                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 16:15                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:05                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 18:16                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:20                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 18:27                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:42                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:03                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:25                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06  2:25                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 18:59                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:30                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 15:04                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 17:42                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07 19:45                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  2:09                                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-10  3:33                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12 15:34                                                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-16  1:43                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 17:12                                                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-19 18:12                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 23:21                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 13:33                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 19:01                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 19:51                                                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-20 21:58                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 20:06                                                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-20 20:08                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 21:19                                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-21  1:41                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-21  3:41                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-16 13:52                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-07 19:22                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 20:05                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  6:17                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 20:10                                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-08  6:15                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  7:02                                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-08  7:10                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  7:40                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:22                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 15:06                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 15:16                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 15:36                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  8:38                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08  9:44                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:25                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 18:23                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:55                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:03                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 19:14                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:21                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06  2:16                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 18:39                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 21:27                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 21:40                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 23:43                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 23:53                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07  3:17                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 19:06                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:16                                                             ` andrés ramírez
2020-04-05 19:19                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:28                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:57                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05 20:48                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 12:43                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 13:39                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 13:55                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 14:44                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 17:16                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:26                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  2:29                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-08  6:45                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  8:37                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08 13:59                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:45                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09  0:32                                                                       ` Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay, was: " Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09  7:46                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09 13:19                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 18:37                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 19:16                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 19:30                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 19:46                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 21:50                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10  6:13                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 12:38                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 13:34                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:34                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 14:45                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 17:23                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 17:46                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-11  4:44                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-11 13:45                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-11 21:32                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12  5:03                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-16  2:04                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 18:25                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 15:47                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-11  0:21                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-11  7:55                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-12  2:51                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12  7:01                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09 19:20                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09 19:28                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10  6:08                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:38                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 19:33                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 22:17                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10  6:47                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 13:00                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 13:38                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:29                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 14:41                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 15:36                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 15:55                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 14:45                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 15:56                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-12  3:07                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12  7:10                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-16  2:18                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-16  5:22                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-16 20:13                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17  6:11                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 17:04                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17 17:35                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 17:52                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17 18:48                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 17:09                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 17:17                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-19 18:51                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 23:22                                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 14:23                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 15:36                                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 16:42                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 16:51                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 16:56                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:02                                                                                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2020-04-20 17:35                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 17:47                                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 18:12                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:19                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:29                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 18:52                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 19:03                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 18:51                                                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 19:09                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 21:50                                                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-21 13:27                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22  3:14                                                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-22 13:26                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23  2:37                                                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-23 13:17                                                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-23 14:46                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24  2:39                                                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-20 18:27                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:39                                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 17:42                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 19:06                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20  3:17                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 15:01                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 17:04                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:39                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:26                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20  3:27                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 15:16                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-21  1:27                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-21 14:02                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24  1:23                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2020-04-24  9:51                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25  0:21                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-16 20:20                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-17  6:18                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 15:13                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-17 15:25                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 16:39                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-11 13:21                                                                         ` Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-11 13:45                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-11 17:04                                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-11 17:15                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-11 21:13                                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-06  2:27                                                         ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 12:26                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07  8:31                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 11:47                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07 12:45                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 13:11                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  8:36                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08 10:37                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08 11:22                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:01                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:15                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 12:07                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 12:35                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 12:45                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  9:05                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06 13:29                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 15:29                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 17:40                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 18:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  9:05                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06 15:25                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 15:30                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 16:23                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-04 12:01                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05  8:45                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  3:49                                               ` Ravine Var
2020-04-06  9:05                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  9:04                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 19:20                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 22:53                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  9:04                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05  3:12                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-05 11:16                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05 14:10                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  2:36                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 14:43                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-07  2:48                                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-07  3:23                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 14:55                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 19:36                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-06 22:12                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 23:41                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-07 14:17                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06  2:36                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 12:14                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07  2:49                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-07  3:26                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08  2:29                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-08  3:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09  3:10                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-09  6:43                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10  2:08                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-10  3:07                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-11  2:31                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-11  4:20                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  2:36                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-05 13:27                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05 15:50                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  2:36                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 13:21                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07  8:32                                       ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 12:52                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  8:36                                           ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 14:03                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  8:37                                           ` martin rudalics
2020-04-11 15:13                                         ` Noam Postavsky
2020-04-08  2:29                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-08  6:40                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09  3:10                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 14:46                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 13:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03  2:54                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28 20:08             ` andrés ramírez

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