deleting minibuffer

deleting minibuffer

[Nikola Skoric]

Hi there everybody :-) I'm a brand new emacs user, and I'd like to get
rid of some of some minibuffers that I generate (for instance
*Completions* minibuffer) and then the y get in my way when I do the
C-x -> thing. When I do C-x 0, I get "Attempt to delete minibuffer...".
Why is attempting to delete minibuffer wrong?

Second thing is: how do I force emacs to break lines for me? When I write
news posts, I want my lines to be less than 70 chars. Is there a way to
force emacs to break my lines for me?

And, how do I prevent emacs from showing me introductory screen? If I run
emacs -nw foo, I want to see foo opened, not introductory screen... :-\

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Re: deleting minibuffer

[sunway]

Nikola Skoric wrote:
> Hi there everybody :-) I'm a brand new emacs user, and I'd like to get
> rid of some of some minibuffers that I generate (for instance
> *Completions* minibuffer) and then the y get in my way when I do the
> C-x -> thing. When I do C-x 0, I get "Attempt to delete minibuffer...".
> Why is attempting to delete minibuffer wrong?
> 
> Second thing is: how do I force emacs to break lines for me? When I write
> news posts, I want my lines to be less than 70 chars. Is there a way to
> force emacs to break my lines for me?
> 
> And, how do I prevent emacs from showing me introductory screen? If I run
> emacs -nw foo, I want to see foo opened, not introductory screen... :-\
> 
the last one:
(setq inhibit-startup-message t)

Re: deleting minibuffer

[Nikola Skoric]

Dana Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:29:49 +0800, 
sunway <sunwayforever@gmail.com> kaze:
> Nikola Skoric wrote:
>> And, how do I prevent emacs from showing me introductory screen? If I run
>> emacs -nw foo, I want to see foo opened, not introductory screen... :-\
>> 
> the last one:
> (setq inhibit-startup-message t)

Sorry for being newbie: where do I put that?

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Re: deleting minibuffer

[Peter Dyballa]

Nikola Skoric wrote:

> Second thing is: how do I force emacs to break lines for me? When I  
> write
> news posts, I want my lines to be less than 70 chars. Is there a  
> way to
> force emacs to break my lines for me?

Check the variable fill-column.

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Re: deleting minibuffer

[Piet van Oostrum]

>>>>> Nikola Skoric <nick-news@net4u.hr> (NS) wrote:

>NS> Hi there everybody :-) I'm a brand new emacs user, and I'd like to get
>NS> rid of some of some minibuffers that I generate (for instance
>NS> *Completions* minibuffer) and then the y get in my way when I do the
>NS> C-x -> thing. When I do C-x 0, I get "Attempt to delete minibuffer...".
>NS> Why is attempting to delete minibuffer wrong?

*Completions* is not a minibuffer. The minibuffer is on the bottom of the
frame (window) and is usually only one line high. It is used for additional
input to commands, e.g. file names. Without minibuffer Emacs cannot
function properly. However, the *Completions* can be deleted without
problems. I don't know what you mean with the C-x -> thing.

>NS> Second thing is: how do I force emacs to break lines for me? When I write
>NS> news posts, I want my lines to be less than 70 chars. Is there a way to
>NS> force emacs to break my lines for me?

menu: Options -> Word wrap in text modes. Don't forget to select Options ->
Save Options if you want to keep it the same for fututre Emacs sessions.
The value 70 can be set by customizing fill-column. Use Options ->
Customize Emacs -> Specific Options and specify fill-column in the
minibuffer.
You can then fill in the value 70 in the dialog window and save it for
future session with the appropriate button.

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Re: deleting minibuffer

[Nikola Skoric]

Dana Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:04:39 +0200, 
Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.uu.nl> kaze:
>>>>>> Nikola Skoric <nick-news@net4u.hr> (NS) wrote:
>
>>NS> Hi there everybody :-) I'm a brand new emacs user, and I'd like to get
>>NS> rid of some of some minibuffers that I generate (for instance
>>NS> *Completions* minibuffer) and then the y get in my way when I do the
>>NS> C-x -> thing. When I do C-x 0, I get "Attempt to delete minibuffer...".
>>NS> Why is attempting to delete minibuffer wrong?
>
> *Completions* is not a minibuffer. The minibuffer is on the bottom of the
> frame (window) and is usually only one line high. It is used for additional
> input to commands, e.g. file names. Without minibuffer Emacs cannot
> function properly. However, the *Completions* can be deleted without
> problems. I don't know what you mean with the C-x -> thing.

When I have more than one buffer opened, then I go to next buffer with C-x, and
then right arrow. If I have, say, 2 buffers opened, and then use completion, a
3. buffer gets opened. If I go to that buffer, and press C-x 0, I get "Attempt
to delete minibuffer or sole ordinary window". How do I get rid of that buffer?

>>NS> Second thing is: how do I force emacs to break lines for me? When I write
>>NS> news posts, I want my lines to be less than 70 chars. Is there a way to
>>NS> force emacs to break my lines for me?
>
> menu: Options -> Word wrap in text modes. Don't forget to select Options ->
> Save Options if you want to keep it the same for fututre Emacs sessions.
> The value 70 can be set by customizing fill-column. Use Options ->
> Customize Emacs -> Specific Options and specify fill-column in the
> minibuffer.
> You can then fill in the value 70 in the dialog window and save it for
> future session with the appropriate button.

Thank you very much! :-)

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I'm left to drift on a dead calm sea
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Re: deleting minibuffer

[Malte Spiess]

Nikola Skoric <nick-news@net4u.hr> writes:
> When I have more than one buffer opened, then I go to next buffer with
> C-x, and then right arrow. If I have, say, 2 buffers opened, and then
> use completion, a 3. buffer gets opened. If I go to that buffer, and
> press C-x 0, I get "Attempt to delete minibuffer or sole ordinary
> window". How do I get rid of that buffer?

Well, you see, the problem is a little different.
(Btw.: You mix up window and buffer here. You want to get rid of the
buffer or the window?)
I think the problem is that your cursor is in the minibuffer. You can't
close that. Maybe try pressing "C-g" instead. Or put the cursor in the
correct window (not buffer) and then you can do your "C-x 0" again.

HTH
Malte

Re: deleting minibuffer

[Nikola Skoric]

Dana Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:42:06 +0200, 
Malte Spiess <i1tnews@arcor.de> kaze:
> Nikola Skoric <nick-news@net4u.hr> writes:
>> When I have more than one buffer opened, then I go to next buffer with
>> C-x, and then right arrow. If I have, say, 2 buffers opened, and then
>> use completion, a 3. buffer gets opened. If I go to that buffer, and
>> press C-x 0, I get "Attempt to delete minibuffer or sole ordinary
>> window". How do I get rid of that buffer?
>
> Well, you see, the problem is a little different.
> (Btw.: You mix up window and buffer here. You want to get rid of the
> buffer or the window?)
> I think the problem is that your cursor is in the minibuffer. You can't
> close that. Maybe try pressing "C-g" instead. Or put the cursor in the
> correct window (not buffer) and then you can do your "C-x 0" again.

Oh, right. You're right. I confused buffer and window. C-x k did the job.
Thanks for clearing that out.

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Re: deleting minibuffer

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 29.08.2007 um 18:42 schrieb Nikola Skoric:

> When I have more than one buffer opened, then I go to next buffer  
> with C-x, and
> then right arrow. If I have, say, 2 buffers opened, and then use  
> completion, a
> 3. buffer gets opened. If I go to that buffer, and press C-x 0, I  
> get "Attempt
> to delete minibuffer or sole ordinary window". How do I get rid of  
> that buffer?

Choose an item from the suggested completions!

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Re: deleting minibuffer

[roodwriter]

Nikola Skoric <nick-news@net4u.hr> writes:

> 
> Second thing is: how do I force emacs to break lines for
me? When I write
> news posts, I want my lines to be less than 70 chars. Is
there a way to
> force emacs to break my lines for me?
> 

Filling to break lines has been suggested. Possibly a better
method is to use longlines-mode. I understand it's built
into the newest version of Emacs. Those of us with older
versions can get it at emacswiki as an add-on.

Longlines will give you the line-breaking behavior that most
other word processors and text editors will give you.

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