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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se>, 17530@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#17530: 24.4.50; `package-load-list': incorrect defcustom type
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2019 14:27:16 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa2cf034-0ac4-4e7e-ab67-4f28719aa2ae@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87impta7ug.fsf@gmail.com>

> > But at least in Emacs 26.3, the default is still
> > `(all)'.  For the record, this part of the problem
> > hasn't been addressed:
> >
> >> If someone does not customize this or does
> >> `package-initialize' in their init file before
> >> loading `custom-file' then they might be in
> >> for an unwelcome surprise, depending on what
> >> packages they have locally.
> >>
> >> The default value would be better as nil, IMHO.
> 
> A default of nil would mean that no packages are loaded.

No, just by default.  No packages loaded by default.

> So pretty much anyone installing packages

No, anyone who wants to _load_ packages.  You would
specify/configure which packages to load, yes.  Is
that outlandish or too restrictive?

> would have to customize it to `(all)' in order to
> get their packages working.  That sounds like a
> worse default.

Not to me, it doesn't.  Just because you've installed
some packages doesn't mean you want them to all to be
loaded.  That's a bit like automatically applying
`require' to everything you have in your `load-path'.

Why would we assume that, by default, users should
load the latest installed versions of all installed
packages?

Do I feel strongly about this?  No.  But it seems
wrong.





  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-15 21:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-19 16:26 bug#17530: 24.4.50; `package-load-list': incorrect defcustom type Drew Adams
2014-05-19 16:33 ` Drew Adams
2019-09-15  0:29 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-15 14:00   ` Drew Adams
2019-09-15 15:37     ` Noam Postavsky
2019-09-15 21:27       ` Drew Adams [this message]
2019-09-15 21:39         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-15 22:05           ` Drew Adams
2019-09-15 22:27             ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-15 23:38             ` Noam Postavsky
2019-09-16  1:18               ` Drew Adams

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