From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>
Cc: 21391@debbugs.gnu.org, Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' returns error when called with arguments 'number t)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 07:01:05 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f9aa21c0-654c-4379-9194-024a779c34c1@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1e88042-6ca2-ae51-2f7a-84f7c44e93b5@easy-emacs.de>
> >>> Is there a need to pick symbols from a buffer as symbols?
> >>> Don't know. My use-case is editing and strings are the suitable
> >>> format.
> >> Of course there is. And not just symbols, but numbers, lists...
> > Sorry for the confusion. I was thinking of `list-at-point' etc.,
> > and not `thing-at-point', which always returns a string (or it
> > should, at least - see my previous msg).
>
> AFAIU the symbol-at-point-as-symbol idea and thing-at-point are two
> different conceptions.
>
> BTW can't see a use-case of form-at-point for know - while
> having some in mind ;)
A particular kind of thing at point is defined using function
`form-at-point' or by using the `thing-at-point' symbol property.
`form-at-point' is essentially a building block (helper).
This is different from what `thing-at-point', which returns
text (a string) that names or represents a thing at point of
a particular kind.
Examples of functions defined using `form-at-point' include
`symbol-at-point', which returns a symbol, not a symbol name
(string); `number-at-point', which returns a number, not a
numeral (string); and `list-at-point', which returns a list
(not a string representing a list).
In my library thingatpt+.el I define functions such as
`symbol-name-at-point', which returns a string naming the
symbol at point, and `non-nil-symbol-name-at-point', which
is the same but returns nil instead of the symbol name "nil",
if there is no symbol (including no symbol `nil') at point.
Using `-name-' as part of the function name helps make clear
that such functions return strings, not symbols.
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2015-09-01 1:59 bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' returns error when called with arguments 'number t Tino Calancha
2015-09-05 8:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-10-13 7:00 ` bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' returns error when called with arguments 'number t) Tino Calancha
2016-11-04 16:31 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-04 18:31 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-04 19:27 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-04 20:21 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-07 9:30 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-07 15:00 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-07 15:01 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2016-11-04 20:03 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-07 3:17 ` bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' should return a string Tino Calancha
2016-11-07 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-07 19:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-07 19:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-07 19:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-07 20:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-07 20:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-08 13:15 ` Tino Calancha
2016-11-08 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-09 0:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-09 6:43 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-09 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-09 23:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-10 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-10 16:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-10 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-10 17:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-10 18:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-10 18:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-10 19:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-10 21:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-11 10:07 ` Tino Calancha
2016-11-11 10:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-11 14:13 ` Tino Calancha
2016-11-11 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-11 14:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-11 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-11 14:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-11 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-11 15:05 ` Tino Calancha
2016-11-11 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-14 1:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-14 2:43 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-14 10:26 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-14 15:19 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-16 13:49 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-16 14:45 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-14 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-15 7:18 ` Andreas Röhler
2016-11-14 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-10 18:27 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-09 17:58 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-09 23:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-11-10 0:40 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-10 8:55 ` Dmitry Gutov
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2016-11-07 16:10 ` Drew Adams
2016-11-07 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-11-07 17:22 ` bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' returns error when called with arguments 'number t) Andreas Röhler
2016-11-07 17:37 ` Drew Adams
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2016-11-07 18:37 ` bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' should return a string Drew Adams
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