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([2001:628:2010:23:f471:946e:b4ae:7d9e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l2sm20570828wms.21.2021.07.21.06.39.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Jul 2021 06:39:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8735s7pzps.fsf@zoho.eu> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42b; envelope-from=thibaut.verron@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42b.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -21 X-Spam_score: -2.2 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.117, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131955 Archived-At: On 21/07/2021 15:23, Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > Jean Louis wrote: > >> French based programming languages are: Logo, RoboMind, >> Catrobat, AppleScript, ALGOL 68, GOTO++, Linotte, LSE, >> BASICOIS, SPIP, 4th Dimension, so that is all from the >> above reference. > Sorry, I disagree 100% with everything in your post but yes, > for the record no one is making the case the French didn't > contribute to the computer world, on the contrary as you show > (cool) but that isn't the issue, well, it hasn't been so far > anyway, I've been speaking of the computer world langauge > only, which happens to be ... not French. And it doesn't > matter what they did or didn't do, sorry. > You misread what Jean said. This is not a list of programming languages coming from France, it is a list of languages where some or all the keywords are in French, by default or optionally. I personally don't support translating programming languages. I had too many unpleasant experiences with Excel/Libreoffice (I don't remember which one was translating the functions to French, but not both, and it was very confusing).