From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20385: [PROPOSED PATCH] Support quoting 'like this' in doc strings Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <1429555155-4695-1-git-send-email-eggert@cs.ucla.edu> <5535974D.9050207@cs.ucla.edu> <5535C7F3.7020107@cs.ucla.edu> <83618p5y9w.fsf@gnu.org> <83vbgp49ve.fsf@gnu.org> <83pp6x45x5.fsf@gnu.org> <5536ACB3.9040707@yandex.ru> <83lhhk4phe.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8y0jmba.fsf@petton.fr> <6837d058-ba18-461b-8af6-2c4e6d767348@default> <55383081.4010106@cs.ucla.edu> <87a8xzae0o.fsf@petton.fr> <55389500.8000404@cs.ucla.edu> <878udj9pfq.fsf@petton.fr> <5538C7EC.9010105@cs.ucla.edu> <877ft39juq.fsf@petton.fr> <55392C91.1010300@cs.ucla.edu> <84f4aea9-c3ef-44c5-ac06-0df72d223e8c@default> <55394A2E.8020002@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1429819708 10670 80.91.229.3 (23 Apr 2015 20:08:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 20:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20385@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert , Nicolas Petton Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 23 22:08:15 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YlNPv-0006PB-6k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 23 Apr 2015 20:07:15 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t3NK7FPq009278; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 20:07:15 GMT In-Reply-To: <55394A2E.8020002@cs.ucla.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101956 Archived-At: > Info files in the Emacs distribution already use curved single > quotes. I sure hope not. That's not the case in the Windows binary builds I was able to download. But there is no Windows build for the latest release. That will certainly be a step backward, if what you say is true. > > users should have the same experience wrt such > > code quoting for Info, doc strings, and Emacs-Lisp (doc > > strings and comments). >=20 > Yes, that's the longer term proposal for Emacs's files, using curved > single quotes. You mean that it is one of your longer-term proposals, I assume. AFAIK, there is no such longer-term plan published by GNU for Emacs's files. Whatever is planned by GNU, I hope it allows users to at least choose the reliable, conventional system we've enjoyed for 40 years. =20 =20 > The current patch is one step in that direction. > Under this approach, users who prefer to quote `like this' will > still be able to do that in their own doc strings and manuals. 1. You didn't answer my question about libraries being able to choose (possibly overridden by a user). 2. This sop is not at all sufficient: "able to do that in their *own* doc strings and manuals". Might as well say that you will allow folks to do what they like in their own fork of Emacs. 3. You have still given *no* argument in favor of anything you've proposed here. We've seen only the pseudo-argument that you find the Emacs way "ugly". IMHO, this self-styled beautification proposal should be considered a non-starter.