From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Daniele Nicolodi <daniele@grinta.net>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: `message' not outputting the newline "atomically"
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 14:11:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f943713f-e060-bcef-bfd7-5af8c60459ed@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3tvceoi0i.fsf@gnus.org>
On 6/24/19 1:17 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
>> I think the fflush() here can be dropped, stderr is not buffered.
> Probably, but Emacs is being built on a large number of systems. Is
> stderr unbuffered on all of them?
It's safe to drop the fflush, since stderr isn't fully-buffered on any
system and we should remove cargo-cult code that gets in the way of
maintenance. But there are more-important problems with the patch.
* The patch also needs a FIXME comment saying it fixes only "message"
output, not the other uses of stderr in Emacs.
* The patched code has undefined behavior if the string length is
INT_MAX, and messes up in other ways if the string length exceeds
INT_MAX. This bug is unlikely but should be fixed.
* The second and third arguments to fwrite should be interchanged. This
makes a difference on some non-POSIX platforms, and we might as well do
it right here.
* More important, the patched code shouldn't call xmalloc. Having to
allocate a buffer as part of an error diagnostic is a recipe for
trouble. (Suppose the diagnostic is related to being low on memory?)
Instead, the patched code should just use a fixed-size buffer that is
guaranteed to exist and be big enough. This is a basic design principle
for error diagnostics (I vaguely recall Dijkstra did this back in the
1960s).
* The buffer should contain only PIPE_BUF bytes, since writes larger
than that can be split by the operating system anyway so any excess size
is wasted. On POSIX platforms you can use fpathconf to calculate
PIPE_BUF for stderr. I don't know how to calculate it on MS-Windows
platforms, but maybe it doesn't matter and you can just pretend it's
1024 or whatever.
* Larger strings can be be output PIPE_BUF bytes at a time. You'll need
a loop for this of course, and the loop should do the right thing if one
of the earlier fwrites fail.
* Better yet, fix the code so that it doesn't need to copy the string
into an extra buffer at all. Admittedly this will be more work, but it's
what the code really should be doing anyway.
When I originally looked into this problem, I drafted a patch along the
lines you're suggesting. But it's a lot of effort to get it right, and
it's effort that we should be spending elsewhere, not here. This is why
the three-line patch that I already gave is way better than what you're
proposing.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-06-24 21:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-06-19 14:12 `message' not outputting the newline "atomically" Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 14:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-19 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19 15:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-19 16:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-19 23:22 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-20 2:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 7:47 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-20 9:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 12:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 12:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-20 13:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 14:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-20 16:26 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-20 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 17:41 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-20 18:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-20 19:33 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-21 5:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-21 6:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-22 0:20 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-22 7:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-22 19:14 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-23 2:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-23 8:34 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-23 11:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-23 14:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-23 17:32 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-23 18:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-23 12:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-23 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-24 4:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-22 8:26 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-22 18:53 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-22 19:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-22 19:15 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-22 19:48 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-20 13:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-20 16:28 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-23 18:59 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-06-23 20:34 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-23 20:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-23 21:00 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-23 22:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-23 20:48 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-06-24 2:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-24 2:51 ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-06-24 19:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-24 20:03 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-06-24 20:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-24 21:11 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2019-06-24 21:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-24 22:03 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-24 22:06 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-24 22:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-24 22:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-25 16:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-26 9:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-26 15:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-27 10:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-26 18:27 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-26 18:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-26 18:58 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-26 19:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-26 19:36 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-06-27 2:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-27 5:43 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-30 20:11 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-07-01 7:41 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-07-01 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-01 17:01 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-07-02 2:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-02 7:58 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-07-02 14:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-02 20:56 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-07-03 5:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-01 17:03 ` Daniele Nicolodi
2019-07-02 2:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-26 19:38 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-25 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-26 9:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-26 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-27 11:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-27 13:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-28 8:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-03 7:31 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-03 7:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-03 7:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-03 7:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-03 8:45 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-03 9:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-03 23:08 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-04 13:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-07 1:16 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-07 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-08 22:35 ` Richard Copley
2019-07-09 2:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-09 13:45 ` Richard Copley
2019-07-09 15:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-09 2:47 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-09 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-09 18:12 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-09 18:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-09 18:44 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-09 19:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-14 0:42 ` Paul Eggert
2019-07-14 6:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-25 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
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