From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ilya Zakharevich Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why emacs have not native language menu Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:48:23 +0000 (UTC) Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department. Message-ID: References: <46A49912.9030203@luxdo.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185327639 24564 80.91.229.12 (25 Jul 2007 01:40:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Bcc: ilya To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 25 03:40:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IDVrg-0004rj-Ca for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jul 2007 03:40:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IDVrf-0006GE-Rx for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 21:40:35 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!agate.berkeley.edu!ilya Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 29 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu Original-X-Trace: agate.berkeley.edu 1185324503 42272 169.229.140.13 (25 Jul 2007 00:48:23 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:48:23 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: trn [how to get a version via %-escapes???] with a custom header X-How-To-Reach-Me: The From: address is valid X-How-To-Disable-Cc: Put in the headers the line: Mail-Copies-To: never Originator: ilya@powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:150437 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:46016 Archived-At: [A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Stefan Monnier ], who wrote in article : > As for why, I would guess it's a mix of difficulty (need someone who > understand enough of Emacs and of localization to deal with it both at the > C and the Lisp level) Would not it be trivial to just advice() bind-key() (sp?)? > - many elements are sufficiently dynamic that it's going to be > difficult to add support to translate them. How this is different from localization of other applications? > - an important side of Emacs is that it exposes a lot of its internals: many > important commands are reached via M-x where the term you enter is the > name of a function (i.e. not quite a string), and all the online help > refers to those things as well. How this is related to the menu? > Still, it's quite doable. I think it is practically trivial. The C part is just to expose the localization part of CRTL to Lisp; the rest can be done through advice(). Please correct me if I'm wrong, Ilya