From: Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Why emacs have not native language menu
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:48:23 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f866kn$1990$1@agate.berkeley.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvir8apj5p.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org
[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to
Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>], who wrote in article <jwvir8apj5p.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org>:
> As for why, I would guess it's a mix of difficulty (need someone who
> understand enough of Emacs and of localization to deal with it both at the
> C and the Lisp level)
Would not it be trivial to just advice() bind-key() (sp?)?
> - many elements are sufficiently dynamic that it's going to be
> difficult to add support to translate them.
How this is different from localization of other applications?
> - an important side of Emacs is that it exposes a lot of its internals: many
> important commands are reached via M-x where the term you enter is the
> name of a function (i.e. not quite a string), and all the online help
> refers to those things as well.
How this is related to the menu?
> Still, it's quite doable.
I think it is practically trivial. The C part is just to expose the
localization part of CRTL to Lisp; the rest can be done through
advice().
Please correct me if I'm wrong,
Ilya
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2007-07-23 12:03 Why emacs have not native language menu lu
2007-07-23 19:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-23 22:42 ` lu
2007-07-24 0:17 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 0:36 ` Nick Roberts
2007-07-24 1:00 ` Emacs localization (Re: Why emacs have not native language menu) Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 8:04 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
[not found] ` <mailman.3832.1185238836.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 7:48 ` Jason Rumney
2007-07-24 11:19 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:23 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.3854.1185275992.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 11:35 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2007-07-24 12:10 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 14:50 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:11 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-07-24 15:21 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.3880.1185290519.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 16:30 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 16:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 18:51 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-25 20:00 ` Translation of Emacs Info manuals (was: Emacs localization ...) Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 3:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 4:42 ` Translation of Emacs Info manuals Katsumi Yamaoka
2007-07-26 12:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 11:45 ` Emacs localization (Re: Why emacs have not native language menu) Jason Rumney
2007-07-24 10:05 ` Why emacs have not native language menu Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 11:05 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 11:12 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 11:21 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <86FA8DD5-B87E-4E64-90C8-04AA81B9469\x04A@Web.DE>
[not found] ` <mailman.3855.1185276075.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:54 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-07-24 14:00 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 14:40 ` William Case
2007-07-24 15:08 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.3874.1185289573.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 5:53 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.3866.1185285646.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 14:26 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-07-24 14:57 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.3873.1185289068.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 16:02 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-25 5:16 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-25 6:44 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 6:55 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-25 10:38 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 16:47 ` William Case
[not found] ` <mailman.3973.1185382240.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-27 20:28 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-25 9:36 ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 11:15 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 12:01 ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 13:06 ` Alexey Pustyntsev
2007-07-25 13:17 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-07-26 4:16 ` Dmitri Minaev
2007-07-25 12:28 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-25 12:59 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
[not found] ` <mailman.3943.1185346523.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 10:51 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-25 12:05 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.3957.1185365137.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 12:31 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 14:56 ` Pascal Bourguignon
[not found] ` <mailman.3850.1185275133.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:30 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 15:25 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:52 ` William Case
2007-07-24 16:29 ` Why emacs have not native language menu -- TYPO William Case
2007-07-24 18:40 ` Why emacs have not native language menu Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.3826.1185230563.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 3:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-24 11:29 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 12:18 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:24 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:39 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.3860.1185279523.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:48 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 13:10 ` Hadron
2007-07-24 14:02 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 14:19 ` Hadron
2007-07-25 21:56 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-07-26 13:36 ` Hadron
2007-07-26 15:02 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-26 19:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 0:23 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 10:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 11:52 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 12:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 13:32 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-27 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.4046.1185495843.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-27 12:00 ` Hadron
2007-07-27 15:00 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.4017.1185462177.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-27 20:31 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-27 21:01 ` ryofurue
2007-07-26 14:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-26 15:03 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-26 16:02 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.4022.1185465812.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-26 16:56 ` Pascal Bourguignon
[not found] ` <mailman.4016.1185461692.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-26 17:57 ` Giorgos Keramidas
2007-07-27 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-27 20:35 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-28 7:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 14:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-07-24 15:12 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.3872.1185289026.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 15:57 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 21:46 ` David Kastrup
2007-07-25 10:42 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-24 13:07 ` Hadron
2007-07-24 14:09 ` Pascal Bourguignon
2007-07-25 0:48 ` Ilya Zakharevich [this message]
2007-07-25 5:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-07-25 8:11 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.3947.1185351202.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 10:19 ` Ilya Zakharevich
[not found] ` <200707251019.l6PAJ3Zu021410@powdermilk.math.berkeley.edu>
2007-07-25 12:22 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.3958.1185366162.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-25 20:25 ` Ilya Zakharevich
2007-07-25 20:34 ` Pascal Bourguignon
[not found] ` <mailman.3810.1185219229.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 7:41 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-24 11:12 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 11:53 ` David Hansen
2007-07-24 12:23 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2007-07-24 15:21 ` Peter Dyballa
2007-07-24 15:27 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
[not found] ` <mailman.3853.1185275573.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 12:32 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-25 19:45 ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 8:12 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-25 19:31 ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 8:00 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-26 8:16 ` Tassilo Horn
2007-07-26 19:35 ` Reiner Steib
2007-07-26 11:33 ` Hadron
2007-07-26 14:20 ` David Hansen
[not found] <mailman.3788.1185192228.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-23 13:53 ` poppyer
2007-07-23 22:45 ` lu
[not found] ` <mailman.3827.1185230730.32220.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2007-07-24 7:43 ` Tassilo Horn
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