From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: BZR error! Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:46:32 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4B4203A0.20402@alice.it> <87bph96gar.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <20100104.163349.117469617.wl@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262620175 15707 80.91.229.12 (4 Jan 2010 15:49:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: tassilo@member.fsf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Werner LEMBERG Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 04 16:49:27 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NRpBI-0004SZ-7A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:49:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55223 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NRpBI-0001RD-Nn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:49:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NRpA9-000137-On for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:48:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NRpA4-00011f-Vv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:48:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46245 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NRpA4-00011N-LY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:48:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:47667) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NRpA0-0000Ab-WD; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:48:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f215.google.com ([209.85.218.215]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NRp8z-0007YP-Lm; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:46:57 -0500 Original-Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so10432179bwz.26 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:46:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FYJPqM8nTFsBTjzg2F+H2laxtpFXhufnFLY8mOQAEQ4=; b=kBXZUmhvOcynIR/4MfoPRqrUyW5+p4/dnWaPI1mqG0m5mR+jLYbf/mQNmuD/GDLQTC pYrRg7jOZRbNg/f0wj94MnBDwnLf8UKr10qvnbb8Ugh4kFZ9pBRiRGSfzPag7weq7G9i kmmuoTIUcbf9ErbmTTy/Y8Rt9gaIFtSUJrEvg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qBxiRAKv7r+5khbpAEHPjB0G3C/vodMQ0zppOJjIG4hQExpEOIkJ6KGCU5WeoElqrM WE8+XlKc8gxO3t+9XG/BLORW5D6fgAScVUKKfezeEBmZI5465JMT5ZPgy+yTa14lVrgW ZA155D280PEHSacJxgtBDQS5n0voYmcBzGE1I= Original-Received: by 10.204.8.151 with SMTP id h23mr3606692bkh.194.1262620012164; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:46:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100104.163349.117469617.wl@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by mx20.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119363 Archived-At: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 16:33, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > The question is rather, from a practical point of view: Why have > migrated to Bazaar and not to git? =C2=A0Up to now, the whole issue is ju= st > a political decision (which I really, really don't like) with ENDLESS > pain. Endless pain? Most of the "pain" is apparently because of complexity, and a cursory look at git's documentation shows that git is not the cure for complexity, not by a long shot. I happen to like git, BTW, so no need to try to convince me that it is good; but the sheer number of options in each command just looks like a joke. For me, the main pain right now, other than trying to decide the appropriate workflows (which would happen with any dVCS), is slowness accessing the repository; but that's not a flaw of Bazaar. Once the Savannah admins switch us over to bzr+ssh, speed of access should stop being a concern. Juanma