From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4520: downcasing function arguments by default not appropriate in multi-tty Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 23:42:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <200909221527.n8MFRFQ7017415@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Juanma Barranquero , 4520@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1253657791 18365 80.91.229.12 (22 Sep 2009 22:16:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4520@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 23 00:16:24 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MqDeo-0004tL-0c for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 00:16:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46108 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MqDen-0005Y5-G3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:16:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqDeZ-0005U6-5B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:16:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MqDeU-0005TQ-KY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:16:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48977 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MqDeU-0005TN-CK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:49038) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MqDeT-00024y-R6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8MM73PO007939; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:07:04 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8MLoKQw004686; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:50:20 -0700 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:50:20 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Juanma Barranquero Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:50:20 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4520 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4520-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4520.12536557613497 (code B ref 4520); Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:50:20 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4520) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 22 Sep 2009 21:42:41 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8MLgcL2003489 for <4520@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:42:40 -0700 Original-Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so145849bwz.1 for <4520@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:42:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=lkU7ygu61PwlZUjgZx2XCYlJeqMYQd/U1Tjp9a6fJyI=; b=roWFA9vSQdsFq1nSpLeTVdQiDdQbtPAs7d0itKoMonYbv1RAY/PgqKnC3S4uCbyPGu xhY8zB8ljTYMS9e950U7LcJEOH4/+Ol83uht46QzmYsyJ3FsFniuyBdXb102otS0leds mVQApqXNpcgoET5lbg4vLpHIX1yZKMmNIB2PQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; b=GkW8b9KVzrWQnBN9XVy6TypPgPLaf2yIhOCfAho1XhRRQLvylViavpYq0S0Gw76By/ UHBlv/yoYfIyGgqYTk0HrOZYkHs06JC/3VjPCKLz4NIkvgOjOCCWBWrq++0c3v0FGwl8 zEMGiI+4yq3igUTE4yUULayivwvidF1hX1hr0= Original-Received: by 10.239.182.137 with SMTP id q9mr136735hbg.72.1253655753175; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:42:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200909221527.n8MFRFQ7017415@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:16:06 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:31370 Archived-At: On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 17:27, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > Changing a buffer's contents based on the font is use is not appropriate > since we have multi-tty, the same buffer can be shown simultaneously in > an X11 frame and a tty frame, and the properties of the font used in the > X11 frame can be very different from the ones used in a tty frame. Well, when the argument downcasing was implemented multi-tty wasn't in Emacs, so it's no wonder we didn't think of that. > So changing the buffer content _by_default_ is not a good idea. > AFAIK we do not do such a thing anywhere else in emacs. In the patch I'm planning to commit for #4510 I proposed (defcustom help-downcase-arguments (and (face-differs-from-default-p 'help-argument-name) t) ...) but it's just as easy to initialize it to nil. It's an interface change, but not too serious; a note on NEWS will suffice, IMO. I'll adjust my patch. Juanma