From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New sync'd branch Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:55:20 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83praic5r5.fsf@gnu.org> <83d46gcnsb.fsf@gnu.org> <87ocq0l2hw.fsf@iki.fi> <83ab1kcmi5.fsf@gnu.org> <877hwom4og.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251472283 18123 80.91.229.12 (28 Aug 2009 15:11:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 28 17:11:17 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mh36d-0005fU-VY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:11:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45790 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mh36d-0002Lt-9S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:11:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mh2rm-000801-49 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:55:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mh2rg-0007v0-Ty for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:55:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53309 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mh2rf-0007tr-C0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:55:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bw0-f222.google.com ([209.85.218.222]:48742) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mh2re-0006MB-8E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:55:42 -0400 Original-Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so1950425bwz.42 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:55:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qdVgbHCMjY/BeOSH/PC+mipcwOoTVlG61qXUqgj32D8=; b=nPKtXWEFdC0SUDAVXBz9cLwjNUb4VknAgXtdy9m0J5QgTryZCXOlJ5ezpAaNqURlnR kHtbyM64JAQoeNWuTd0SEP0tpYXBJPPHyks9pSXeyJ3mxTay6HKaD+lmTV9Ev/JlhRPb 5ynz5Zss7eBl9bpBHrW/Og3HC1Jd/qHL8BlqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OBKNkBSxwoP2+2aF1qDB6beYCDmgsjJ60IrTUCMVU0CobbxHFbLWO8yFwVaIuZSYSV 9kKLs1RtoTXsbtzjfhaG0zzD5PLA8JH9/J58zeC3tr5e87yeZgD7VBiv/tn/8oFKVdMR 7LDu1SqZXjdy+ZSJJaaACHDSimRNV6WRmuVCA= Original-Received: by 10.239.183.30 with SMTP id s30mr112122hbg.171.1251471340373; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 07:55:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <877hwom4og.fsf@telefonica.net> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114760 Archived-At: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 15:46, =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: > As someone who tried git on Windows some weeks ago, I can confirm Eli's > fears. Did you install the msysgit development environment, or the git exe? > And would say more: git is the brainchild of Linus, and works according > to Linus views of the world. For instance, CRLF line endings cause a lot > of trouble. A little trouble, yes, though that's better in recent versions. > git's extraordinay responsiveness disappears on Windows too. ?? git on Windows is surely not as fast as it is on GNU/Linux, but are you saying that it is slower than bzr (or cvs) for you? > Then there are those who think that msysgit is a "native" port to > windows, instead cygwin's "emulation". Well, they ignore what msys is: a > fork of cygwin. And that's a problem because...? You don't have to install Cygwin (which I hate). What does matter how msysgit works internally? > Finally, git's UI is horrid: complex, barroque, with plenty of > opportunities for shooting yourself on the feet. Those kernel guys are > not the right people for designing UIs. I agree with that, and certainly it's a bit absurd the sheer number of options most commands have. But you can do serious work with git using a tiny fraction of that complexity (I do, and I've just used the simplest of git tutorials). That said, every DVCS is an acquired taste; I don't think bzr's command set is that elegant, either (though it is definitely simpler). > Some day people will recognize > this and will see today's massive leaning towards git as a mistake > originated on juvenile reverence towards its original author and on > simplistic metrics like raw speed, putting aside a critical and objetive > assessment of its merits compared against the alternatives. Come that day, perhaps will all be using darcs ;-) Juanma