From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: w32-pass-rwindow-to-system Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:19:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <49771D7C.7070904@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1232547614 31644 80.91.229.12 (21 Jan 2009 14:20:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:20:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: grischka Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 21 15:21:27 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LPdx9-00075H-Se for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:21:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32944 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LPdvs-0004WT-Je for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:19:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LPdvZ-0004GQ-J4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:19:33 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LPdvZ-0004Fq-2S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:19:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53842 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LPdvY-0004Fa-LV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:19:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f20.google.com ([209.85.219.20]:65184) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LPdvY-0001aI-BC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:19:32 -0500 Original-Received: by ewy13 with SMTP id 13so1719252ewy.18 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:19:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=P5GZ4sVh/NgtfrOWPgW3Z1CS9jKLcHxyWp5hCz4omPA=; b=rFJmDJOS0Mz3wvWVqSPYU/hMiP4jRqp7yPMxxx13NC4cWcOGojeaLdYt9R1yUCUu4f mzza8vwLG/8jsmagqGXS2CC/XDwST68iaF23enyjdB8ZBsHhRYw0l6xhLVea87dTGACp ayyrioucbZTdayZOCFBjgIyo5PlORSVvcZf84= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v2WQmPj7NTAy5NhzIbUyU5F36ySqH+W9eSqeTQJjXi4CPUOCuFjy4eajZkkiM+zR3e iz6CcJA2Z3SHnPc/pzReNUnxg52SHEVFmvCIAbNlym0I5RFU2N/B4T3uitCUD67lL5Yc ktg8gxfPjpCCUhdI2Rk7JgrpfQ2gI/V0vWPvM= Original-Received: by 10.210.42.13 with SMTP id p13mr5314202ebp.183.1232547569871; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 06:19:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49771D7C.7070904@gmx.de> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108038 Archived-At: On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 14:05, grischka wrote: > That is definitely an highly optimistic point of view. Hmm... well, OK ;-) > I've seen > people here fighting to protect their bugs against fixes by any > means including obviously false arguments or even loss in common > standards of politeness. I don't remember obviously false arguments (in the sense of the poster knowing that they are false), though I've seen "loss [...] of politeness" a few times. > Reason seems to be that bugs like any code are considered copyrighted > work and the only way for people to gain credit in an unpaid project is > to see their work included in history. And of course bugs will produce > more feedback by far than something that works flawlessly. > > So why should anyone be interested to throw away own work that is so > well suited to get attention of the world as are bugs? Sorry, I'm unable to take such a cynical view of Emacs development. Perhaps you're right by calling me "highly optimistic". Juanma