From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Release plans Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:38:35 +0200 Message-ID: References: <570553.73339.qm@web95014.mail.in2.yahoo.com> <20080731093022.GB2886@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217763535 22821 80.91.229.12 (3 Aug 2008 11:38:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Frank Schmitt , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 03 13:39:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KPbw8-0003oz-E0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:39:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33664 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KPbvD-0005FV-9P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:38:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KPbv6-0005CA-6u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:38:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KPbv4-000590-Di for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:38:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35709 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KPbv3-00058Z-RV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.186]:43341) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KPbv3-0001zX-HS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 07:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so604485nfi.26 for ; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:38:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RB1QdOZ1MtNspXcD0RRGo1WabiyW+x5Y9jCyEMqN53g=; b=XbX0kfKcEdj6BXgtdgT3Mvtw2HOVDu/q/9QsUqFH+98k9ePelhLMKixR6hO0igotnC DBM9O3qZznWpioQYeyPO/x8L24YPAHFLCY5JEzPUsk02b1MweQyRy7y4Rvme1kGZAW+3 gY7Jd29fqmP3WmB+bmbdIEECHqnRQVvYQlXck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ipN2rtgSrROq73bbrRNaXDpAVb+Uc+1qux2J248d02rvm/CfQbPC89xdl7cBWuF24u PHAlbO56HLeRy7qqFOYoEauE8PW3k9LoM72J/+gPZVzFPsxNPgkAoGUH8ahzna+wGBC3 Udia7IkHHAkMlQcYNjFVxhaT/YxI7nJfz+ovI= Original-Received: by 10.210.119.5 with SMTP id r5mr15552118ebc.17.1217763515819; Sun, 03 Aug 2008 04:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.210.71.14 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 04:38:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101994 Archived-At: On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 03:33, Richard M. Stallman wrote: > Well then, Emacs on Windows has in at least one case brought someone > more or less all the way to freedom. If this happens often, then it could > amount to a good reason to have Emacs run on Windows. You're setting a harsh standard for Emacs on Windows. Even GNU/Linux fails to bring many people "all the way to freedom", because they still use proprietary software (present in most distributions). Of course the Windows port's impact is perhaps tiny, but, on the other hand, is not like maintaining it is sapping the Emacs developers' resource pool. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I read this thread as if you were thinking of dropping Windows support on Emacs. I fail to see how that would help freedom. It certainly wouldn't help mine. Juanma