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From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
To: "Dan Nicolaescu" <dann@ics.uci.edu>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: function arguments downcased in help buffers
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:01:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ccd24b0804150901n2cce0e43i3e0edb023e724533@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200804151537.m3FFb71U018970@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu>

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu> wrote:

>  That might have been your intention, but that is not what you actually
>  said, and what I was replying to.

We can discuss forever the meaning of "they are", but I stand for what
I actually said.

>  This is unrelated to what I wrote and the context I wrote it in.  DejaVu
>  Sans Mono is also not useful to X11 emacs for emacs 22,

Why not?

> AFAICT it is not available as a core X font.

That is unrelated to what you wrote, unless your definition of popular
is "available as a core X font".

>  This type of attitude is one of the reasons emacs-devel is such an
>  unpleasant environment lately.

I'd say that the attitude of using "brain-dead", "bug", "stupid" etc
to people's decissions (and, yes, sometimes mistakes) is one reason
why emacs-devel is often unpleasant. That, and the habit of pushing to
change back defaults people don't like, instead of just customizing
them in their .emacs and be done with it.

>  The discussion was about a feature that recently changed behavior

That's one way to see it. Another is to think that the feature has not
changed behavior, but a recent bug is triggering an unindented
misbehavior.

>  and
>  the statement you replied to was clearly labeled as _a personal opinion_
>  and clearly stated that it didn't require a change if that is what most
>  people want.

I fail to see why your statement is "clearly [...] _a personal
opinion_", and my comment, which explicitly said "but I find it
a bit insulting [...]", is not.

>   Stating that criticism of a feature is an insult is a
>  clear way to drive people way from any type of discussion.

Nice strawman, but I wasn't objecting to your disliking of the
feature, or your criticism, just to the election of the word "bug" to
denote an intended feature.

 Juanma




  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-15 16:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-15  0:20 function arguments downcased in help buffers Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-15  1:52 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-15  2:04   ` Glenn Morris
2008-04-15  2:33     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-15  5:03     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-15  8:51       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-15 14:16         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-15 14:48           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-15 15:04             ` Drew Adams
2008-04-15 14:25         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-15 15:00           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-04-15 15:37             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-15 16:01               ` Juanma Barranquero [this message]
2008-04-15 17:15                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-15 17:50                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-15 16:00           ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-15 23:09             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-04-16  3:44     ` Dan Nicolaescu

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