From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Juanma Barranquero" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MAINTAINERS file Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:50:10 +0100 Message-ID: References: <18375.18663.981150.252393@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87zlte3848.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <877igipc17.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> <87tzjmnsiz.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204879833 7404 80.91.229.12 (7 Mar 2008 08:50:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:50:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, jeremy@jeremyms.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 07 09:51:00 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXYI6-0004zM-6t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:50:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXYHY-0002dd-AC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:50:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXYHQ-0002ZW-Kh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:50:16 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXYHP-0002Z8-PS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:50:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXYHP-0002Yu-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:50:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXYHO-0001Xw-TD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:50:15 -0500 Original-Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.183]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXYHO-0003z3-5H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:50:14 -0500 Original-Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n30so476697elf.7 for ; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:50:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=E3rJnOnX4mvGl0B/gKW/6akmPF0RvLw/FqW8EL8DD6k=; b=DcppjAQa729oIDyjLIkyAAPaOvYjxz6ks2Vh3yf5fXklgeI2H4EYUdEEGWFVZwLyKLBqIVMN0fioko6e0QOmZ48mF2VRE6uxRpwIZAGSE2PdgI694+TbTKMzBlSexSTUpPNkpy6VtbeTdk9eiLN+4Od5wkFffNnXdAeMVcsPKhE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lDxHNKvMW6wI+kRxRTTDxr+rmLMSZ9PV2k7D0/HH2NCuhObU0ILhso07iY5euN5/evksNfccgk1K49d3DqkeK+ZKZCBZc8jEWgnesHlZ73nPXQ1izr9HIHDFMukcOEG3pPFVq9W87Myq7pB6VETrupQr265j2fbuwsq4JgdJvmE= Original-Received: by 10.114.110.1 with SMTP id i1mr261336wac.112.1204879810999; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:50:10 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.114.166.20 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:50:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91614 Archived-At: On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > That is completely backwards. The free software movement is a > political cause, not a technical one. "Choose based on technical > criteria first of all" is the opposite of what we say. That's twisting a bit what I said, I think. I specifically said "selecting among the free alternatives", so it is clear that politics plays an important part. > There are many reasons why GNU packages should support other GNU > packages. Yes. But then, you're equating "support" with "use with preference to other free alternatives", and I don't think that follows necessarily. > The GNU Project is not just a collection of software packages. Its > intended result is a coherent operating system. It is particularly > important therefore that GNU packages should work well with other GNU > packages. By that reasoning, we all should try using GNU/Hurd, shouldn't we? > The maintainers of one GNU package should use other GNU packages so > they will notice whether the packages work well together, and make > them work well together. Perhaps. But if git were used by 90% of users, and Bazaar by 5% (I'm making up the numbers, of course), time spent in making Emacs work well with git would be better spent, from a free software perspective. > Other people don't necessarily see which editor you use, > but they all see what dVCS you use. That would be more convincing if every GNU package except by Emacs were using Bazaar. Is that so? Juanma